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In Topic: 75 Greatest Basketball Programs

Yesterday, 09:49 AM

 PuddingTime, on 30 October 2014 - 04:16 AM, said:

It has nothing to do with last year. Historically UConn has been nobody.  Same with your Gators until Donovan. It has to do with a culmination of achievement on the court, of annual relevance. Just because you won two titles doesn't mean in the grand scheme of things you have a better program,  you just did those years.

Dude, it's Cats fans that constantly run it in the ground that nothing matters but NC banners, and that conference titles are completely meaningless; so you're contradicting yourself with that statement.

Forget where UF is, that's not even the topic; with that scoring structure teams like the ones I mentioned could be ranked right up there with the real bluebloods.

One team could win the lame ass Big Sky conference every year, getting 8 points for every title, make some tourneys that they get blown out of regularly, and end up ranked close to programs with multiple National Championships, which only get 10 points for every national title.

Think I'm kidding? Look past the first page where you're ranked and look where some of these other programs are ranked.

First 7 make sense with UK, KU, UCLA (this one doesn't back up your theory either; you're constantly telling anyone who will listen that outside UCLA's single run, they aren't anything), UNC, DU, UL, UConn (whoops, here's the team you just said has been a nobody, ranked at #7. Know why? 8 points for every one of the 29 times they've won their conference.), IU, and Cincy and 'Zona round out the Top 10.

Cincy at #9? Their only 2 titles were in '61 and '62, but they've won conferences like CUSA, Great Midwest, Metro, Missouri Valley, and the MAC 27 times.

Utah at #12? Based on what? 1 NC in 1916. Yes, 1916. And they've won the WAC 29 times. The WAC.

Texas at #14? No NC's, and only 3 Final Fours, but 25 conference titles got them here.

Princeton at #15? No NC's, and only a single Final Four, but 32 EIBL and Ivy League titles.

I could go on and on up to the Top 25 with absurd teams ranked way too high, but you get the jist.

As I said, you can't give the same recognition and 8 points to teams for winning mid-major conferences like the WAC, Metro, or Missouri Valley that you give teams for winning the ACC, Big East, or Big 10.

Additionally, giving 8 points to teams for winning the Metro conference and only 2 more points, 10, to teams for winning the NC skews the rankings completely. Doesn't matter if it was last year or throughout a team's history, 8/10 points is 8/10 points. There's too much credit being given to teams who win conference titles, many of them not even really legit DI conferences.

Sorry, but after the Top 10, this list is an epic fail because of the scoring structure. UK's own policies seem to say as much; you guys hang Final Four and up banners, right? Don't even bother with conference banners.

Yet, by this absurd scoring structure a team gets 8 points for a conference title and only 5 for a FF appearance. Ridiculous. The NC runner-up only gets 6.

A better structure would be 10 for a NC, 8 for a runner-up, 6 for a F4, 4 for an E8, 3 for a S16, 2 for an NCAA appearance, and 2 for a conference title since winning a conference only gets you an NCAA appearance anyway, except in those stupid situations where a conference tourney title also sends the winner to the dance.

I think you'd see a much more legit ranking after adding up those totals.

In Topic: 75 Greatest Basketball Programs

29 October 2014 - 10:16 PM

Talk about your botched lists. Sorry, but there should be a lot more points awarded for a Natty; winning it all is significantly harder than any of those other minor accomplishments... which is why so few schools have one compared to the number of schools playing for them.

If a program doesn't have a banner they shouldn't be in front of any programs that have multiple banners; I don't care how much of that other useless stuff they have going for them.

And programs getting almost as many points for a conference title (8) as a national one (10) is just silly. So teams who win the small, mid-major, barely DI conference titles get the same points as teams winning the ACC, Big East, or Big 10; and only 2 fewer points than the team that won the National Championship?

So, last year Southern, who went 19-13 but won the SWAC, or Weber State, who went 19-12 but won the Big Sky, were nearly as good as National Champion UConn? C'mon now.

In Topic: Jameis Saga Continues....Now Its Autographs

17 October 2014 - 07:51 PM

View Post1dawgfan09, on 17 October 2014 - 07:24 PM, said:

The whole sexual assault story was made up because this girl--who despite never having heard of the guy and Jameis never having taken a snap at FSU and well before he was a surefire NFL lock when all of this went down--is only after recognition and money.**

Yeah, not to mention it's every girl's mission and goal in life to be universally ridiculed or hated, receive death threats, and be forced to leave the university she'd dreamed of and worked her ass off for years to attend... makes perfect sense.

In Topic: Jameis Saga Continues....Now Its Autographs

17 October 2014 - 07:20 PM

View PostSquealliam Fatner, on 17 October 2014 - 06:18 AM, said:

I thought he voluntarily returned it. I may be wrong, but I don't think it was repossessed.

No, they told him and USC they needed to return the trophies, and it took a couple years for them to wrench Reggie's out of his parents' iron-fisted grip; but he eventually returned it.

As for Rapeis, they just updated the number of items signed by him from 900 confirmed to over 2000 confirmed; but according to Dumbo he didn't receive a nickel for any of them... you know, because somebody with Winston's character and integrity always sacrifices receiving anything for himself just so others can get filthy rich off his signature. :rolleyes:

Sounds legit...must be why he couldn't afford the crab legs.

In Topic: Week 7: Alabama at Arkansas

11 October 2014 - 07:22 PM

Nick looks like he's about to burst a capillary.