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Based Potato

Based Potato

Member Since 30 Nov 2008
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In Topic: How do we fix baseball?

Today, 09:40 PM

View PostMizzou_Fan, on 02 September 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:


My point wasn't the Cardinals getting relegated, it was two teams from the same organization being in AAA, I just used the Cards as an example. Imagine how much bitching there'd be when a team got relegated, especially a big club.

View PostPuddingTime, on 02 September 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

Not only that, bit the AAA, AA etc are owned by the big league team. Its not setup like Europe where all those clubs have different ownership.  The Reds aren't going to decide it's their best interest to have the Louisville Bats play in Cincinnati for a season and send Vottl, Bruce and the Bpboys and all the Reds equipment to Louisville.  Its just stupid and a poor idea all around.


The Lookouts have changed hands three times in the time I've been alive, all three after the millenium. First they were a Reds farm club, then a Cubs, now a Dodgers farm. It's not like these teams are locked in to one team for life, so it surely wouldn't be that hard to cut ties. Besides, what do the big clubs really do for the little ones other than provide them with players?


And the Bats would play in their own stadium in Louisville. Why would they play in the Reds stadium?


EDIT: The Lookouts were never a Cubs farm team. I guess I just imagined that.

In Topic: How do we fix baseball?

Today, 08:56 PM

View PostMizzou_Fan, on 02 September 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

Relegation would never work. The minor leagues are meant for developing the younger players. What are you gonna do, have the Cardinals play the Memphis Redbirds in AAA? I think too many Americans would be against relegation for any sport, including soccer.
The Cardinals would likely never be relegated in your lifetime, and if they were, they would suck donkey balls anyway. All the really popular clubs, save maybe the Cubs, would never get that bad. All I've heard is that Americans wouldn't like relegation, but I've never been given any evidence as to why. It makes games that wouldn't normally matter matter, and it if you're in the minors and you have a good organization, you get rewarded.

In Topic: How do we fix baseball?

Today, 08:27 PM

View PostMizzou_Fan, on 02 September 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

That could have something to do with living in Nashville where there isn't really a team anywhere near to pull for.


This is Braves country, and with the exception of a few friends that post on Facebook, I don't hear much about baseball. I used to dream of playing baseball, lived the sandlot life when I was a kid. I don't think the ballfields in my neighborhood even get used anymore. When I was a kid, March through July weekends had those ball fields packed.

In Topic: How do we fix baseball?

Today, 08:23 PM

Although, if it were up to me, I'd dump the luxury tax, cut the schedule to a three game series with every division opponent and then a two game series for every other team in the bigs and introduce soccer style relegation to add a little urgency. Just built that 16 billion dollar ball park just to get dumped to AAA next season? I don't give a Posted Image, maybe buy or develop better players.

In Topic: How do we fix baseball?

Today, 08:14 PM

View PostPuddingTime, on 01 September 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

MLB is 3rd in the US behind NBA and the NFL. There are a number of reasons why and a number of ideas on how to fix it. Here's my list:

- Length of season.  I don't care that baseball is steeped in tradition and October is when the fall classic is played.  No one who's a fan of the two teams playing cares outside of the most diehard fan.  Football is in full swing and basketball is starting.  Interest in the World Series at that point is dead. Playoffs need to begin in August.  People are dying for football to start and playing baseball games that matter then would put a lot more eyeballs on the games...there's no competition.
- DH rule. Either both leagues use it or neither. This half and half Posted Image is just stupid.
- Pace of game. It has improved but whatever else there may be could help. Baseball isn't the most TV friendly sport. So much better in person.
- Salary cap/revenue sharing/whatever the hell it is the NFL has.  Small market teams in the MLB truly matter at best once a decade.  People treat it as a summer tradition and nothing more when they feel like they're never legitimately in it to win it.
- The media. ATTN ESPN. No one else gives a Posted Image about the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers.

Based on what? Cumulative attendance? Cumulative ratings? I'd argue that they're 5th and could become 6th by the time the next world cup comes around. Baseball is cool in person but without the legendary, have to see them player, there's no difference between the bigs and minor league baseball. And the last of those guys, IMO, is retiring this year. Baseball has a bunch of good players but until those guys start threatening records people will continue to not care. Baseball has the same problem that IndyCar does on a greater scale. They had a massive chain of controversy that turned off many fans in a critical watershed point in time where TV and digital media was starting to make obsolete the old guard media of radio and newspaper. It doesn't translate to TV and you have to be at the ballpark to enjoy it. The games can be pretty long and pretty exhausting. The crowd has never played a huge part in the excitement of baseball, and crowd energy is the standard by which the TV viewer understands the importance, the urgency of the situation.


Just enjoy it if you do. It'll never be big time again, and if it did become big time, it would be nothing like you remembered it.