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It really is the story that won't die. The rumors and moves USUALLY all come crashing down AFTER the season is over and a football champion is crowned. But Jim Delaney and the Bi X (XIV?) just couldn't wait.

Did the Big X decide to grab Maryland and Rutgers to upstage the BCS National Championship since his conference is once again irrelevant in the discussion? Was the move made to counter Notre Dame's quasi alliance with the ACC? Or did his television partners cut a deal with cable networks to force a nickle per household increase on every subscriber up and down the eastern seaboard? Rumors are running rampant...

I was going to leave this story alone until after the SEC Championship game, but the news this morning is just too compelling to pass on. Just a few short days after Duke's coach Krzyzewski expressed concern over the ACC's stability, Virginia Tech's AD Jim Weaver has essentially reached out to the Southeastern Conference!

Weaver's comments have definately blown Twitter up:

“I really haven’t thought about (whether the SEC would contact Tech) because the discussion (thanks to Maryland’s move) has just come about three or four days ago.  I’d like to defer my comment for right now, but there may potentially be some interest.”

There are not too many schools out there that can cause Mike Slive to stop what he is doing and change course. Texas Agriculture and Military was one of them, and make no miskake, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University is another. If VA Tech is truly interested in joining, the SEC WILL find a way to make it happen.

This creates another problem. Who will be school number 16? Odds are, it will be a school in North Carolina. Is this the death knell for the ACC? It sure seems that way. If the Hokies have one foot out the door, can Florida State and Clemson be far behind?

Truth is, the Big 12 was written off for dead after CO, NE, MO & aTm bolted, but within less than a year they have re-established themselves as one of the stable "power conferences". Can the Atlantic Coast Conference pull off a similar feat? The president's and ad's of ACC schools must all be very nervous right now. There are many proud and storied athletic programs in that conference.

Will the power conferences all go to 20 schools and create an 80 school universe? Will they stop at 16? Right now, nobody really knows. Fasten your seatbelts, the expansion carousel is sure to be a fast and furious ride this offseason...

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SEC East

Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Georgia
South Carolina
Florida
Florida State
Virginia Tech
North Carolina State
Clemson

SEC West:

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Louisiana State
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Okalahoma
Oklahoma State

MAKE IT HAPPEN SLIVE!!!!!!

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Why would you want so many teams? Then we would never get to play anyone from the west. I liked it at 14 16 is a max

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Constant opponents or start with these teams on a 2 year rotation:

Kentucky vs Mississippi State
Vanderbilt vs Ole Miss
Tennessee vs Alabama
Georgia vs Auburn
South Carolina vs Arkansas
Florida vs Louisiana State
Florida State vs Oklahoma
Virginia Tech vs Texas A&M
North Carolina State vs Oklahoma State
Clemson vs Missouri

Based upon the article saying it could go to 20 teams per conference.

Sounds logical to me....lets make it happen.

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Mechanical* not Military but I think technically A&M doesn't officially stand for anything now.

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I bet West Virginia is kicking themselves right now.  They could've be the ugly sister no one really wanted but fills out the numbers Missouri in this deal.

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Everybody wants to get into the SEC, but everybody can't... sorry guys.
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Let's go to 20 teams and not play OOC games.

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View PostMatt, on 21 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

I bet West Virginia is kicking themselves right now.  They could've be the ugly sister no one really wanted but fills out the numbers Missouri in this deal.
IMO WV didn't have another desirable eastern school to come with them and they had to take what the could get. I said sometime a while back the WV and VT were the most likely teams.
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The acc made it clear with their last expansion that they care more about basketball. The SEC will get vt and nc state...then chumpson and fsu will head to the big 12. Then the acc will just go out and get some more basketball teams like louisville and georgetown.

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View Postcocky4ever, on 21 November 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

The acc made it clear with their last expansion that they care more about basketball. The SEC will get vt and nc state...then chumpson and fsu will head to the big 12. Then the acc will just go out and get some more basketball teams like louisville and georgetown.

I think if Clemson & FSU go to the Big 12, they will bring GA Tech & Miami with them - they BOTH want as many teams in the league as possible for close, drivable rivalry games
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This expansion is complete BS. Everyone's jockeying for a spot in the 4 team playoff.

The SEC expanded to 14 and look what happened.... we damn near got shut out of the BCS.

To hell with expansion.
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16 has got to be the cap.  The conference already cannibalizes itself as it is (yet still faces constant OOC scrutiny?) What benefit would there be to individual programs if they are lengthening the road to winning their division, and conference, by adding a typically extremely competitive VT team?(and whatever throw in they choose to let accompany it)

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The Big12 is trying to get to 16 teams too. That means adding 6 teams between now and the 2014. They are looking at adding teams from the Conference USA / WAC re-alignment and ACC. They want a north and south Division with 8 teams in conference and 3 non conference games and a Big 12 Championship game. Expanding into areas where they are not currently, doing it before some of the conferences start this 50 million dollar buyout fee's and before the 2014 Conference and non conference strength of schedule kicks in to be 1 of the 4 qualifiers for the playoffs.
They are going to announce this after the current Bowls and the Big10 jumped the gun and signed Rutgers and Maryland before someone else did.and before they could back out.
The Big12 is looking at adding teams like LaTech, UL-L, ULM, Rice, New Mexico State, Arkansas State, etc
They want some teams in the conference that Kansas, Iowa State, TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia can compete and beat up on and put them in TV markets they are not currently in.

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View PostaTm 82, on 21 November 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

The Big12 is trying to get to 16 teams too. That means adding 6 teams between now and the 2014. They are looking at adding teams from the Conference USA / WAC re-alignment and ACC. They want a north and south Division with 8 teams in conference and 3 non conference games and a Big 12 Championship game. Expanding into areas where they are not currently, doing it before some of the conferences start this 50 million dollar buyout fee's and before the 2014 Conference and non conference strength of schedule kicks in to be 1 of the 4 qualifiers for the playoffs.
They are going to announce this after the current Bowls and the Big10 jumped the gun and signed Rutgers and Maryland before someone else did.and before they could back out.
The Big12 is looking at adding teams like LaTech, UL-L, ULM, Rice, New Mexico State, Arkansas State, etc
They want some teams in the conference that Kansas, Iowa State, TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia can compete and beat up on and put them in TV markets they are not currently in.
That really would dilute an already pretty weak conference.  Once you get passed Texas, OU, OkSt and KSU who would you expect to field a top 25 team every year?






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