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Crimson Kicker8, on 16 November 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:
To all those talking about revolution, consider this; revolution is easy. It is the act of destroying something that is already in place. It's easy to get angry about something instead of fixing it. Of course, there are times when a revolution leads to better things and, being a historian, I'll use the advantage of hindsight to make this point.
The American Revolution is a prime example of an advantageous revolution. A European colony, separated by a vast ocean and founded primarily by people who sought to avoid the struggles of the established European life, being forced to pay into a system that did not look out for their way of life, was ripe for a revolution. They were well equipped for self-governance, organized, and efficient while only lacking strong military capability.
On the flip side, the Confederate States of America attempted a revolution for independence with almost the exact opposite skill set. While they were very efficient militarily, they lacked the skilled governing traits of their forefathers. States often went their own direction in governing matters, a crucial aspect that the original colonies were able to avoid through unity. Had there been no Robert E. Lee and an army of Northern Virginia, the war for southern independence would not have lasted a year. They had the "spirit" for revolution, but not the tools to see it succeed.
Now, fast forward to today. The outcome of the War Between the States solidified the fact that no state will ever secede from the Union again.......period. All this talk about our political woes leading to a new line of secession is ridiculous. Look, Obama is a crap president, he's been reelected for a little over a week and his administration is already dropping the ball and shaping up to be a lame duck this early in the term. Yes, it's sad and pathetic, but the great thing about our political system is that in a little less than 4 years we can vote a new president and congress to service. And no, as bad as Obama is, our country isn't going to collapse in that time. Only a revolution would bring it to it's knees. So I suggest you tighten up your belts and focus on what your forefathers did before you, and that was exist for 236 years using hard-nosed innovation to overcome terrible presidents and governments to find ways to succeed. They did that without overthrowing Washington, they did it the tough way, they did it right. Bear Bryant once said this: Tough times don't last, but tough people do.
The American Revolution is a prime example of an advantageous revolution. A European colony, separated by a vast ocean and founded primarily by people who sought to avoid the struggles of the established European life, being forced to pay into a system that did not look out for their way of life, was ripe for a revolution. They were well equipped for self-governance, organized, and efficient while only lacking strong military capability.
On the flip side, the Confederate States of America attempted a revolution for independence with almost the exact opposite skill set. While they were very efficient militarily, they lacked the skilled governing traits of their forefathers. States often went their own direction in governing matters, a crucial aspect that the original colonies were able to avoid through unity. Had there been no Robert E. Lee and an army of Northern Virginia, the war for southern independence would not have lasted a year. They had the "spirit" for revolution, but not the tools to see it succeed.
Now, fast forward to today. The outcome of the War Between the States solidified the fact that no state will ever secede from the Union again.......period. All this talk about our political woes leading to a new line of secession is ridiculous. Look, Obama is a crap president, he's been reelected for a little over a week and his administration is already dropping the ball and shaping up to be a lame duck this early in the term. Yes, it's sad and pathetic, but the great thing about our political system is that in a little less than 4 years we can vote a new president and congress to service. And no, as bad as Obama is, our country isn't going to collapse in that time. Only a revolution would bring it to it's knees. So I suggest you tighten up your belts and focus on what your forefathers did before you, and that was exist for 236 years using hard-nosed innovation to overcome terrible presidents and governments to find ways to succeed. They did that without overthrowing Washington, they did it the tough way, they did it right. Bear Bryant once said this: Tough times don't last, but tough people do.
You cannot say that with 100% certainty. The THINKING in our country has completely changed, it is this thinking that will lead to the collapse of our country, if not with Obama then with someone else.... the next person who is willing to be Santa.
MOST Americans, liberal or conservative would probably admit that Romney would be better for our economy..... it'd be hard to argue otherwise with what we've seen with the last 4 years....and........they........STILL....... voted him back in
Since you clearly know your history, then you know the average span of a superpower is around 200 years. To the people of Rome..... the idea of it collapsing was unheard of.... unthinkable, impossible...... but it happened, no one is invincible, especially with a huge degree of stupidity mixed in
Edit: I'm not saying seceding is the answer, just that I believe we are truly witnesses the beginning of the fall of America as a superpower
Edited by GatorHater24, 16 November 2012 - 06:58 PM.
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