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Gun Business is brisk

Started by smokeyone, Nov 09 2012 03:11 PM

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

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GoldenRebel, on 13 November 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Can't go wrong with the 10/22. Only downside is the non-Ruger mags are shit. There are a lot of nice .22s for pretty cheap though. Depends on whether you want autoloading or bolt.

They ain't what I'd call inexpensive but the Tactical Innovations mags are the shiznit. Got a couple sitting on the shelf right now...

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:13 AM

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Hey man I am about to pull the trigger and buy me a Beretta PX-4 sub-compact for 409.00 with a 50 dollar rebate through Beretta. Now I know it is a awesome deal and everything I have read about the gun says its a good pistol. What is your take? Any thing I should take into consideration before pullin the trigger?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:47 AM

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Hothotz, on 14 November 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

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Hey man I am about to pull the trigger and buy me a Beretta PX-4 sub-compact for 409.00 with a 50 dollar rebate through Beretta. Now I know it is a awesome deal and everything I have read about the gun says its a good pistol. What is your take? Any thing I should take into consideration before pullin the trigger?

I don't have any personal experience with that weapon, but last I heard (which was 12-18 months ago) is that there are significant issues with the rotating barrel arrangement they use. Reports of guys using a mallet to unlock the slide after jams. Beretta customer service has also been described as "glacial" in resolving problems.

I kinda sound like a broken record in this regard but my recommendation is to go with either a Glock or a S&W M&P. Both of those are service pistols with well established records for reliability and you can get them new for not a lot more than what you're looking at for the PX-4. Find a good used one and it's likely to be less...

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:59 AM

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nova, on 14 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

I kinda sound like a broken record in this regard but my recommendation is to go with either a Glock or a S&W M&P. Both of those are service pistols with well established records for reliability and you can get them new for not a lot more than what you're looking at for the PX-4. Find a good used one and it's likely to be less...

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Glock or a S&W M&P. These are the equivalent of a Snap-On ratchet set. Everybody should have one. With the 9MM performance ammunition available today, the .45 and .40 don't really offer a serious performance advantage.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:08 AM

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nova, on 14 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

I don't have any personal experience with that weapon, but last I heard (which was 12-18 months ago) is that there are significant issues with the rotating barrel arrangement they use. Reports of guys using a mallet to unlock the slide after jams. Beretta customer service has also been described as "glacial" in resolving problems.

I kinda sound like a broken record in this regard but my recommendation is to go with either a Glock or a S&W M&P. Both of those are service pistols with well established records for reliability and you can get them new for not a lot more than what you're looking at for the PX-4. Find a good used one and it's likely to be less...

FNx, Styr, Springfield ect

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

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Beretta rotating locking blocks blow

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:51 AM

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smokeyone, on 15 November 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

FNx, Styr, Springfield ect

I used to really like the XDs but I've gotten to where I don't like their implementation of the grip safety. I've seen crapola get caught up in the gaps between the grip safety and the frame and lock it up tight. When the GS stops, you can't even rack the slide. :scared:

The FNx, some of the early production pistols had issues being "picky" about ammo when you installed a weapon light. Last I heard they'd fixed that though. Never shot one myself but they have all the features necessary in a reliable service pistol.

Another idea would be a Sig. I've never owned one but love 'em the times I've shot them...

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:56 AM

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smokeyone, on 15 November 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Beretta rotating locking blocks blow

so this is a good thang, right?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

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nova, on 15 November 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

I used to really like the XDs but I've gotten to where I don't like their implementation of the grip safety. I've seen crapola get caught up in the gaps between the grip safety and the frame and lock it up tight. When the GS stops, you can't even rack the slide. :scared:

The FNx, some of the early production pistols had issues being "picky" about ammo when you installed a weapon light. Last I heard they'd fixed that though. Never shot one myself but they have all the features necessary in a reliable service pistol.

Another idea would be a Sig. I've never owned one but love 'em the times I've shot them...

Im a sig guy but thought we were looking in the under 600 range. The cheaper plastic sigs are pretty bad.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:12 AM

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Noah.Dreams, on 15 November 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

so this is a good thang, right?

only if you graft a set of titts on it.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:15 AM

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I did the tour of the FN factory in Columbia SC and fell in love with the idea of a solid American made handgun that was not over 1000.00. The FNp 45 tact is the finest shooting non 1911 45 I have ever shot. 15 plus 1 with the optic plates already in the box was awesome. Too bad they made it baby shit green.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:21 AM

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GoldenRebel, on 13 November 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Can't go wrong with the 10/22. Only downside is the non-Ruger mags are shit. There are a lot of nice .22s for pretty cheap though. Depends on whether you want autoloading or bolt.

OMG 10.22 has so many available parts and custom fit pieces you can make one anyway you want it. A blast to shoot and accurate as hell. I have had one for going on 20 years. Use to sit in a lawn chair in the backyard and pick off squirrels that got fat on the pecan trees, hate living inside the city limits now.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

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smokeyone, on 15 November 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Im a sig guy but thought we were looking in the under 600 range. The cheaper plastic sigs are pretty bad.

Yah you right. Didn't even consider cost. You're not getting a Sig in decent shape for the prices he's talking.

I've seen a couple black friday deals on M&Ps though. $450 range....

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:24 PM

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nova, on 14 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

I don't have any personal experience with that weapon, but last I heard (which was 12-18 months ago) is that there are significant issues with the rotating barrel arrangement they use. Reports of guys using a mallet to unlock the slide after jams. Beretta customer service has also been described as "glacial" in resolving problems.

I kinda sound like a broken record in this regard but my recommendation is to go with either a Glock or a S&W M&P. Both of those are service pistols with well established records for reliability and you can get them new for not a lot more than what you're looking at for the PX-4. Find a good used one and it's likely to be less...

See if you can find one at an indoor gun range and shoot it. I know a person that took a brand new Beretta .40 sub right out of the box loaded brand new hollow points in it and it jammed on the first round. Lip on the edge of the hollow point tip was jammed up against a piece of the receiver. After ejecting the shell you could see the bent lip on the tip of the copper jacket. After shooting it the slide was jammed at about 1/4 of inch. Guy at the range took a plastic hammer to the slide and with about 4 whacks unloaded it. He said the slides too tight from the factory, shoot slow for the first box of ammo till the gun loosens up a bit. It jammed 3 out of the first 50 rounds. The first 20 or so shell casings had some minor scarring along the length of them. The guy who owned it said he got it as a gift and couldn't return it.
If I owned it and couldn't take it back I would take it apart clean it and take it to a gunsmith and have that thing combat tuned, ejector port and slide rails polished and then put like 500 rounds thru it and it better not jam once.
My Son in Law has the full size Bereta9 just like the military uses and it shoots nice.
My wife carry's the Glock G26sub, throws it from purse to purse, stays fricken dirty from all the crap she throws in her purse. It is light as hell and holds 10 rounds. Even seen her use a hand wipe to get lipstick off of it and throw it right back in her purse. She can't hurt it and it won't rust, Check out the G26 for the money.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

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aTm 82, on 15 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

See if you can find one at an indoor gun range and shoot it.

. She can't hurt it and it won't rust, Check out the G26 for the money.

Meh, I'm not really interested. I've got my M&P, am happy with it and don't plan on getting anything different outside of collectibles. Next on my list is a full size M&P9 to go with my M&P9C...

Far as I'm concerned, when it comes to service pistols Glock is 1A and the M&P is 1B. Rugged, reliable and not that expensive is a hard combo to beat...

Edited by nova, 15 November 2012 - 12:31 PM.

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