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The Official 2012-2013 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread

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View PostNeil Caudle is Superman, on 05 December 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

I think I'd rather have Fowler than Gordon as Gordon made $12 million last year and FOwler made $2 million.  

Where did you see that? Gordon made 6 mil last year and will make 9 mil this year. Still a difference, but not enormous. Gordon is a better overall ballplayer. Less difference in home/away split, better defender. I would still be okay with Fowler though.
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View PostUAdan, on 05 December 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:



Where did you see that? Gordon made 6 mil last year and will make 9 mil this year. Still a difference, but not enormous. Gordon is a better overall ballplayer. Less difference in home/away split, better defender. I would still be okay with Fowler though.

Oh, I was looking at baseball reference and was looking at the last few years of his contract instead of his current contract so that's my bad. I'm used to looking at guys who are still arbitration eligible where their last salary is their current salary. In 2014 he'll make $10m and 12m after that, but yeah 9 million is definitely better for 2013.
Gordon has a higher potential, too. I don't think there's any doubt he is the best outfielder we can probably get right now, I'm just thinking about resigning all the young guys over the next few years.
When McCann comes off the books after this year that'll give us more money to resign Heyward/Freeman/Medlen/Kimbrel too.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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View PostUAdan, on 05 December 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

I'm split on Bonifacio. I'm still not convinced he's what I'd call an "everyday starter". I'd just feel better if we got a rock-solid option for LF instead of a guy we might have to shift around. Wren is already talking about a potential Francisco/someone else platoon. Ugh.

Yeah Bonifacio will never be more than a slap-hitting speedster, but I've always been a fan of the running game, probably because I ran so much when I played high school ball.

And yeah I've heard talk about Evan Gattis platooning... He's got 40 HRs in the last two years over 150 games and he it .322 and .305. He could actually wind up being pretty good, but I'd rather have something proven too.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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View PostNeil Caudle is Superman, on 05 December 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Oh, I was looking at baseball reference and was looking at the last few years of his contract instead of his current contract so that's my bad. I'm used to looking at guys who are still arbitration eligible where their last salary is their current salary. In 2014 he'll make $10m and 12m after that, but yeah 9 million is definitely better for 2013.
Gordon has a higher potential, too. I don't think there's any doubt he is the best outfielder we can probably get right now, I'm just thinking about resigning all the young guys over the next few years.
When McCann comes off the books after this year that'll give us more money to resign Heyward/Freeman/Medlen/Kimbrel too.


Good point. Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if we couldn't spend all 13.5 mil that we have left. If we have a few mil left over then save it for the trade deadline or keep it on hold for the future.
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View PostUAdan, on 05 December 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:




Good point. Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if we couldn't spend all 13.5 mil that we have left. If we have a few mil left over then save it for the trade deadline or keep it on hold for the future.

Yeah, you never know, Mark Teixeira might be available at he trade deadline!! We could trade Simmons, Delgado, Teheran, gilmartin... But in all seriousness, yeah, I bet there will be some pretty solid players available at the trade deadline. Chase Headley comes to mind...

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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DOB is suggesting we might look at a Nate Schierholtz-Reed Johnson platoon in LF.

I really hate the idea of most platoons, but that one might actually be productive. If you take Schierholtz's numbers vs RHP and Johnson's numbers vs LHP from 2012, you'd get the following:

.299 batting average
.357 on-base percentage
.455 slugging percentage

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Starting to prepare myself for disappointment tho (Sigh)
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View PostUAdan, on 05 December 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

DOB is suggesting we might look at a Nate Schierholtz-Reed Johnson platoon in LF.

I really hate the idea of most platoons, but that one might actually be productive. If you take Schierholtz's numbers vs RHP and Johnson's numbers vs LHP from 2012, you'd get the following:

.299 batting average
.357 on-base percentage
.455 slugging percentage

in 362 PA

They're so.... Mediocre though. Blah. They're players that absolutely don't hurt you, but they don't do a whole lot to help, either. They're both good at what they do, but I'd rather have Reed Johnson as a pinch hitter/fill in to let guys get rest and just put Francisco at 3B if that is the best alternative.

Juan Francisco is hitting .316 with 6 HR's and 23 RBI so far in 26 games.

Evan Gattis is hitting .339 with 9 HR's and 29 RBI so far in 41 games.

I think I'd rather go with platooning them than signing Schierholtz.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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Cubs just took Schierholtz.

Our options are getting fewer and fewer.

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Posted Image it. Let's just hold onto who we have and see what we need in June.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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Or sign Ichiro to a 1 year $4 million deal with a team option for an extra 1 year, $4 million with a $250,000 bonus if he hits .290, another $250,000 if he hits .310, another $500,000 if he hits .320 and another $500,000 if he hits .330. If he sucks, we get a veteran gold glove winning future HOF'er with a massive arm, speed, and contact hitting for $4 million. If he's awesome, he gets a little bit more money.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

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If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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The Posted Imageing Phillies traded for Ben Posted Imageing Revere!!! How the Posted Image did we not work out a deal with Minnesota if Revere was available? He's exactly what we Posted Imageing needed defensively, price-wise, and speed-wise and we let our mother Posted Imageing rivals get him instead. Posted Image!!!!!!!

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

We won't have to stack the box, our athletes are better. Read the first sentence, Auburn won't have over 175. Bet anything you want, it's not gonna happen. That's the one thing Bama can do without a doubt 100% mark it down, and have been for years.

View PostTider27, on 18 November 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

If you're going to bet, it will be longer than signing day. This is a rivalry that lasts 365 days, you would have to at least keep it until next football season or this isn't even worth mentioning. Besides, Bama could be winning late in the game and the scrubs get the 200.
Either way, it won't be happening to Bama's defense.
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The fawking Phillies just pulled a rabbit out of their hat and got Ben Revere. You've got to be kidding.
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View PostShow Stopper, on 28 November 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Personally I'd love to get Revere from the Twins.  He is a Lexington, KY native who initially committed to Georgia but then got drafted in the 1st Round by the twins I think back in 2007.  Very speedy guy who's bat has improved leaps and bounds over the past couple years.  Throw that in with the fact that he has a spectacular glove, he would be a great addition.  Put Upton in center, Revere in LF, and move Prado to 3rd.

http://hardballtalk....ere-from-twins/

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I didn't even think Revere was available. This sucks.
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