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[Penguin]

I think the point is moo (its a friends reference) because CHIZIK made the OC hire and loefag is like....the helen keller of OCs ultimately what has killed us this season has been total lack of offense and total lack of anything resembling a decent QB which was supposed to be lefags specialty. Ultimately it falls on chizik for hiring the wrong guy and not having the balls/skill to take over when he was a bust.

[THE_KRIEG]

The same because Loeffler would still be his coach.

[ElephanTideis]

I could not figure out why your coaches took him out of the LSU game. Y'all may have won that one.

[RammaJamma]

I don't see much of a difference he still doesn't know the offense and making a play or two against aTm 3rd string is a little different than starting the game. He's not ready to start think about it the shape Auburn is in Chiziks job if they thought he could play any better at all the slightest bit better he would be out there.

I don't think the games you've lost would be as close especially LSU, MSU, or Arky

[ShortyPrice]

It might have helped some, but you would have to wonder how ready he was early in the season.  Even if he had been good to go from game one, I'm not sure that it would have helped prevent the onrush of the cliff of bad coaching that Auburn is enduring.  Maybe win a game or two more and hang on the Chizik and Company a year longer?

[AUFan1974]

uscrules, on 31 October 2012 - 09:33 AM, said:

With Frazier starting I was amazed at how few running plays were designed for him, considering last year that was the thing he did best and was his strength.

I thought that he sucked it up pretty bad when he would run last year, Clint ing Moseley looked like a more competant runner than Frazier during the Ole Miss game. Frazier has no field vision........can't find a reciever, can't find a hole. Frazier's girlfriend's taint is probably beat all to hell.

[uscrules]

AUFan1974, on 01 November 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

I thought that he sucked it up pretty bad when he would run last year, Clint :lanekiffin:ing Moseley looked like a more competant runner than Frazier during the Ole Miss game. Frazier has no field vision........can't find a reciever, can't find a hole. Frazier's girlfriend's taint is probably beat all to hell.

Well he killed us with his running last year.

[AUskip07]

ElephanTideis, on 31 October 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

I could not figure out why your coaches took him out of the LSU game. Y'all may have won that one.

i dont remember them taking him out for that game.   it was the arkansas game that was the change.

[SECorBust]

Penguin, on 31 October 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

I think the point is moo (its a friends reference) because CHIZIK made the OC hire and loefag is like....the helen keller of OCs ultimately what has killed us this season has been total lack of offense and total lack of anything resembling a decent QB which was supposed to be lefags specialty. Ultimately it falls on chizik for hiring the wrong guy and not having the balls/skill to take over when he was a bust.

Not just that.  You have to develop QBs over more than one season.  Freshman QBs don't win Championships.  When Chizik would not name a QB it was telling.  He didn't know IMO and was letting Loeffler evaluate them and decide.  Chizik, Moseley,  Frazier, and Pike had been committed to Auburn longer than Loeffler.  The head coach has to have a vision of the offensive and defensive philosophies, how they work together to defeat teams, and what players fit those schemes best.  It takes a hands on guy that keeps tabs on individual player development.  Then you have to bring players along that fit your plan.  After 4 years for Chizik to look to Loeffler and ask "which guy do you want" was ridiculous.  Loeffler basically scratched his head and eventually said "none of them, but I guess I'll take Frazier."

When Chizik hugged Malzahn in 2010 after the MSU win it seemed like a weird and galvanizing moment.  I later realized that that was the moment that they knew that they had a team capable of playing together and winning a lot of games.  It stands out to me because he didn't know until then that he had a strong team.  That's what you are supposed to cause to come about and affect as a HC, not something that falls into your lap.

[ElephanTideis]

AUskip07, on 02 November 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

i dont remember them taking him out for that game.   it was the arkansas game that was the change.

I'm almost positive he came in for a few plays and moved the ball pretty well.