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[TheRealBrave]

StaringContestYouAndMe, on 11 January 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

For sure. Murray only got sacked 4 more times than McCarron, so there isn't a huge gap in the two, but our O Line definitely helped him out quite a bit.

To be fair, the only reason Murray wasn't sacked a lot more is because he is quite slippery and mobile. He's actually a very solid scrambler when the coaches let him run around.

For the record I'm not saying McCarron is bad by any means, I just think Murray is a bit better. McCarron throws a lot of high percentage throws while having the best offensive line in the nation, and probably the best pair of running-backs too. Aaron Murray also lost his best receiver quite early in the season, and lost our third best as well.

Edited by TheRealBrave, 12 January 2013 - 11:28 AM.

[HobnailedBoots]

jthomas666, on 12 January 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

No, you've been grasping at straws to diminish his accomplishments.

Yes, because saying anything other than "He's the greatest QB ever" is diminishing his accomplishments in your eyes. There's no reasoning with people like you.

[jthomas666]

HobnailedBoots, on 12 January 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

Yes, because saying anything other than "He's the greatest QB ever" is diminishing his accomplishments in your eyes.

Odd, since I've never said that.

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There's no reasoning with people like you.

Seriously?  You're the biggest homer on this board.

[HobnailedBoots]

jthomas666, on 12 January 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

Odd, since I've never said that.
Seriously?  You're the biggest homer on this board.

I always love it when homers call me a homer. The mark of a true idiot.

[Tider27]

I often wonder if Aaron Murray has nightmares of Mosley tipping that pass.

[SheLuvsBama]

Guys, you need to quit talking to HNB.... life is sweet. Don't let it get muddied up by disgruntled fans. I mean, conversations that never end about who on their team is better than our team is an exercise in futility. We don't need it. If they think so, their team is there to prove it for them. Talk won't cut it.

[TheRealBrave]

SheLuvsBama, on 12 January 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

Guys, you need to quit talking to HNB.... life is sweet. Don't let it get muddied up by disgruntled fans. I mean, conversations that never end about who on their team is better than our team is an exercise in futility. We don't need it. If they think so, their team is there to prove it for them. Talk won't cut it.

Oh jesus christ, nobody said we're better than Alabama. Quit inventing things to complain about.

Edited by TheRealBrave, 12 January 2013 - 12:41 PM.

[SheLuvsBama]

TheRealBrave, on 12 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

Oh jesus christ, nobody said we're better than Alabama. Quit inventing things to complain about.

I don't think I'm the one complaining..... read the thread. "My QB is better than YOUR QB"... all thread long. Get out there and win the game if you want to talk. This thread needs to be over. It is ridiculous and childish. Finis.

[GatorUnvrsty]

bbqit, on 11 January 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

This thread lasts at least another year.

It's already lasted several... this is the Stafford/Tebow thread brought out of the ashes and renewed with different QB's. Same arguments, same debates, same insults, and ultimately, same results when it's all said and done.

Stafford - 0 SEC titles, 0 National titles, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 564-987 57.1% 7731 yds 51 TD's 33 INT's 133.30 Career QB Rating, 141 Att 213 yds 6 TD's
Tebow - 2 SEC titles, 2 National titles, 3-time Heisman finalist, Heisman Trophy, - 661-995 66.4% 9285 yds 88 TD's 16 INT's 170.79 Career QB Rating, 692 Att 2947 yds 57 TD's

Murray -  0 SEC titles, 0 National titles, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 696-1131 61.5% 10091 yds 95 TD's 32 INT's 158.55 Career QB Rating, 233 Att 202 yds 9 TD's
McCarron - 2 SEC titles, 2 National titles, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 460-690 66.7% 5956 yds 49 TD's 8 INT's 160.29 Career QB Rating, 85 Att -28 yds 3 TD's

Frankly, the OL and RB arguments are a little irrelevant, because all QB's, college and NFL, are rated the same way in their groups with no consideration for how good or bad their OL is or RB's are... everybody knows that varies going into the discussion. Does it matter? Yes. Do analysts use it when they rate QB's either in college or the pros? Nope.

Want to know how this debate is ultimately going to end? Well, if things stay pretty much the way they are now, and McCarron finishes with the better rating and overall accomplishments in college, a few Dawg fans will wait until the 2 QB's have made their way onto an NFL team to revisit this. And if Murray has the better QB numbers at that point, they'll point to it and say, "See, Murray was the better QB in college all along.", without any regard to the factors they're arguing now, like which NFL team has the better OL or RB. Nor will some of them concede that 1 guy could be better in college, or better suited to the college game, but worse in the pro game.

That pretty much sums it up.

[SheLuvsBama]

Amen, honey.

[GatorUnvrsty]

SheLuvsBama, on 12 January 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

I don't think I'm the one complaining..... read the thread. "My QB is better than YOUR QB"... all thread long. Get out there and win the game if you want to talk. This thread needs to be over. It is ridiculous and childish. Finis.

You have to admit, that IS a unique take on the thread as a whole. A dozen pages of one group complaining about again being the bridesmaid... but it's the victors complaining.

[Tider27]

GU just schooled Hob for the 3597971234197th time.

Edited by Tider27, 12 January 2013 - 03:00 PM.