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[UKat]

zartan, on 18 July 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

If Christians believed that book they read, they'd like a guy who wanted to make health care available to everyone. They certainly wouldn't foam at the moruth at the suggestion that we raise taxes on the wealthy in a time of economic downturn

The Bible says nothing of stealing from the rich to give to the poor. The Bible says that every man must work in order to eat. In actuality the Bible speaks more highly of the poor because they are typically more spiritually rich, money tends to draw us away from God as we don't feel we need Him or have to rely on  Him.

Edited by UKat, 22 July 2012 - 11:50 AM.

[ForwardRebels]

UKat, on 22 July 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

The Bible says nothing of stealing from the rich to give to the poor. The Bible says that every man must work in order to eat. In actuality the Bible speaks more highly of the poor because they are typically more spiritually rich, money tends to draw us away from God as we don't feel we need Him or have to rely on  Him.

I'm not in agreement with Zartan's claim about raising taxes on the rich in a time of economic turmoil, but he's got a point about Jesus being a socialist.

1. Jesus owned nothing.
2. Jesus argued for the dissolution of the family and the establishment of communes.
3. Jesus loved all people regardless of ethnicity or class.
4. Jesus revolted against the imperial government, established religion and finance capitalism (usury).
5. Jesus taught that people should act as one body, one blood.
6. Jesus taught that his kingdom (ie nation state) is in the heart and not below the feet.
7. Jesus taught that people should fight for justice and 'turn the other cheek' to petty morality.
8. Jesus was a laborer and a teacher.
9. Jesus practiced healing and forgiveness.
10. Jesus taught that you can't be an imperialist and a disciple at the same time.

[Zee]

[zartan]

UKat, on 22 July 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

The Bible says nothing of stealing from the rich to give to the poor. The Bible says that every man must work in order to eat..

...but it has dozens of verses commanding you to help the needy and not to harden your heart against them

[GatorHunter]

George Bernard Shaw [1856-1950]


“A government with the policy to rob Peter to pay Paul
can be assured of the support of Paul.”

[Judas Priest]

If you're 20 and a republican, you don't have a heart.

If you're 40 and a liberal, you don't have a brain.

Edited by Judas Priest, 23 July 2012 - 02:23 PM.

[jacobp]

Judas Priest, on 23 July 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

If you're 20 and a republican, you don't have a heart.

If you're 40 and a liberal, you don't have a brain.

I always hated this quote.

[Gidnik]

jacobp, on 23 July 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

I always hated this quote.

truth hurts

[jacobp]

psh, I was going to Crawford County Republican meetings when I was 12.  THAT'S why I hate that quote.

[NextYearIsHere]

jacobp, on 23 July 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

psh, I was going to Crawford County Republican meetings when I was 12.  THAT'S why I hate that quote.

I think most Southerners start out Republican/Conservative because everyone copies their parent's/communities' views and values until they get a little older and start to think for themselves. Then the idealist kicks in and with it often comes progressivism. I know I was much more conservative when I was 16 than I was at 26. I wonder if I'll come full circle by the time i'm 60?

Edited by NextYearIsHere, 23 July 2012 - 10:21 PM.

[ForwardRebels]

NextYearIsHere, on 23 July 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

I think most Southerners start or Republican/Conservative because everyone copies their parent's/communities' views and values until they get a little older and start to think for themselves. Then the idealist kicks in and with it often comes progressivism. I know I was much more conservative when I was 16 than I was at 26. I wonder if I'll come full circle by the time i'm 60?

Sir Winston Spencer Leonard Churchill says yes, yes you will.
Imagine NYIH arguing the finer points of Austrian economics and the abolishment of the FED...........

[NextYearIsHere]

FCN!dawg, on 23 July 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Sir Winston Spencer Leonard Churchill says yes, yes you will.
Imagine NYIH arguing the finer points of Austrian economics and the abolishment of the FED...........

I used to argue that blow jobs counted as sex in God's eyes so people that did it weren't virgins and therefore Hell bound...


HAHAHAHA kids are freakin dumb

[GatorHunter]

NextYearIsHere, on 23 July 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

I think most Southerners start or Republican/Conservative because everyone copies their parent's/communities' views and values until they get a little older and start to think for themselves. Then the idealist kicks in and with it often comes progressivism. I know I was much more conservative when I was 16 than I was at 26. I wonder if I'll come full circle by the time i'm 60?

I disagree...most folks tend to be much more liberal when they're younger...heck, just look at the polls...unmarried people tend to vote Democrat and married tend to vote Republican.

I know when I was younger...college years...I was much-much more liberal in thinking.  It wasn't until I graduated from college...worked my ass off for several years...got married and had a child did I realize how absolutely flawed the liberal way of thinking truly is...and it's not just my opinion, I've had this talk with several close friends and we all see it this way.  My profession does nothing but bolster my views...seeing how entitlements have hamstrung so many people into a life of dependence is troubling.  

In a nutshell, younger folks, especially college students, living carefree...chasing poon non-stop (I do miss those days could care less, so...they're typically liberal...when they get out of school...get married...get mortgages...have children...they tend to care a little more about morals, society, the economy...hence, they tend to be more conservative in thinking.

[NextYearIsHere]

GatorHunter, on 23 July 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

I disagree...most folks tend to be much more liberal when they're younger...heck, just look at the polls...unmarried people tend to vote Democrat and married tend to vote Republican.

I know when I was younger...college years...I was much-much more liberal in thinking.  It wasn't until I graduated from college...worked my ass off for several years...got married and had a child did I realize how absolutely flawed the liberal way of thinking truly is...and it's not just my opinion, I've had this talk with several close friends and we all see it this way.  My profession does nothing but bolster my views...seeing how entitlements have hamstrung so many people into a life of dependence is troubling.  

In a nutshell, younger folks, especially college students, living carefree...chasing poon non-stop (I do miss those days could care less, so...they're typically liberal...when they get out of school...get married...get mortgages...have children...they tend to care a little more about morals, society, the economy...hence, they tend to be more conservative in thinking.

no no man, we're talking younger as in early adolescent. Jacobp mentioned 12 and I mentioned 16. Yes I agree with you by college the liberalism and idealism kicks in, but I meant that we start conservative assuming that our surroundings as conservatives at those ages

[jacobp]

I was raised in a family full of blue dog democrats.  Most of them have come to there sinces since then, though.