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[dcbl]

http://blogs.ajc.com...n-for-bulldogs/

“I don’t want to put any pressure on them, but losing that guy may have been the best thing to happen to them,” said Dooley, who coached the Bulldogs to six SEC championships and one national title in 25 seasons. “It was a bad-apple type thing, if you ask me.”

“Bad apple” was the second term Dooley used to describe Crowell’s effect on the team. The first was more effective but he asked me not to use it.

Dooley said Crowell undoubtedly is a talented football player and probably was the Bulldogs’ best option at tailback. But the negative effects as far as being a troublemaker and a distraction far out-weighed any skills he brought to the field, Dooley said.

Nice to hear something like that coming from Vince, a guy that would know. But I'm dying to know what his 1st choice of words was... Thug?

[dcbl]

Now that Crowell is gone, “That kind of thing will unite a team many times,” Dooley said. “Historically when things like this have happened in the past, they tend to have a unifying effect on teams. They go on to have an even better season than they were predicted to have.”

More of what I want to hear. Why didn't Vince run for office again? He would have been the 2nd democrat I would have voted for in my life. Good 'ole Zig Zag Zell being the 1st.

I DID vote against Zell for governor, which I regret, but for him for Senate. Then I moved to AL...

Edited by dcbl, 10 July 2012 - 04:27 AM.

[Dawgfan4life24]

Sad but true. The fact that there were 4 underclassmen with Crowell that night scares me.  Players have enough problems staying outta trouble without Crowell instigating it. I did hear he was getting his act together on the field and in the gym which is great, unfortuneatly he neglected to do that for his life.  LIke the saying goes, "one bad apple spoils the bunch." Sad this happened to such a talented back but glad to have one less negative distraction on campus.

[Herschel Talker]

Here's an interesting nugget: the last 3 times Alabama State enrolled a high profile transfer from an SEC school, the original school went on to win a national championship the following season.

[Georgiaboy2012]

gatorhater, on 10 July 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

Here's an interesting nugget: the last 3 times Alabama State enrolled a high profile transfer from an SEC school, the original school went on to win a national championship the following season.

That's exactly what I like to hear

[TrueGCFan]

Addition by subtraction.  But the concern for me if I was a UGA fan would the the recent history with high profile RB coming from Georgia.  The last stud running back that panned out for UGA was Knowshon and he was from NJ.

Time and time again RBs from the state of Georgia heading to UGA have had either many legal problems or just flat out under performed.

[eastcoastrazorback]

I agree with Dooley.

[HobnailedBoots]

TrueGCFan, on 10 July 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

Addition by subtraction.  But the concern for me if I was a UGA fan would the the recent history with high profile RB coming from Georgia.  The last stud running back that panned out for UGA was Knowshon and he was from NJ.

Time and time again RBs from the state of Georgia heading to UGA have had either many legal problems or just flat out under performed.

Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. Crowell didn't pan out for sure, and neither did Washaun Ealey or Caleb King. But Thomas Brown, Danny Ware and Kregg Lumpkin were all very good backs for us, and all play in the NFL now. All of them were home grown here in Georgia. Whether there is a systematic problem in Georgia with some of these kids now, who can say? Could just be luck of the draw. It's not like we were the only school recruiting any of those kids, everyone else did too.

I know I'll get mocked for saying this - but I maintain that a lot of our troubles are because we have a stricter drug policy than other schools, we test more than other schools, and the UGA police get a hard-on every time they see a football player. At some other places in the SEC, a lot of stuff our guys get picked up for would simply result in a call to the head caoch. Here, they're booked. Doesn't matter if it's something as trivial as "emerging from an alley," they're going to have the book thrown at them and be tarred and feathered by the Atlanta fishrag and the anti-athletics Red and Black newspaper.

[GatorHater24]

I think Marshall has a good head on his shoulders, of course the only thing I have to go by is his GPA and talk that I've heard.

[HobnailedBoots]

GatorHater24, on 10 July 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

I think Marshall has a good head on his shoulders, of course the only thing I have to go by is his GPA and talk that I've heard.

He's from North Carolina though.

[JoeGator]

HobnailedBoots, on 10 July 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

I know I'll get mocked for saying this - but I maintain that a lot of our troubles are because we have a stricter drug policy than other schools, we test more than other schools, and the UGA police get a hard-on every time they see a football player. At some other places in the SEC, a lot of stuff our guys get picked up for would simply result in a call to the head caoch. Here, they're booked. Doesn't matter if it's something as trivial as "emerging from an alley," they're going to have the book thrown at them and be tarred and feathered by the Atlanta fishrag and the anti-athletics Red and Black newspaper.

As you should be.

Really the only schools who are super lenient with their athletes (or so it seems) are the Alabama and Mississippi schools.

Edited by JoeGator, 10 July 2012 - 10:54 AM.

[Herschel Talker]

JoeGator, on 10 July 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

As you should be.

Really the only schools who are super lenient with their athletes (or so it seems) are the Alabama and Mississippi schools.

Negative.  Very few schools nationwide enforce testing the way Michael Adams has set it up to work.  Only 2 SEC schools enforce mandatory suspensions for first-time offenders (UGA and Kentucky).

SEC
Alabama: (1) none; (2) 15 percent of games; (3) one year; (4) dismissal.
Arkansas: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) 50 percent of games; (4) dismissal.
Auburn: (1) none; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Florida: For marijuana/synthetic marijuana: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) 20 percent of games; (4) dismissal. For all other drugs: (1) 50 percent of games; (2) dismissal.
Georgia: (1) 10 percent of games; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Kentucky: (1) 10 percent of games; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
LSU: (1) none; (2) "up to 15 percent of games;" (3) one year.
Ole Miss: (1) none; (2) none; (3) three games.
Mississippi State: (1) none; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) one year; (4) dismissal.
South Carolina: (1) none; (2) 25 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Tennessee: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Texas A&M: (1) none; (2) "possible suspension;" (3) possible dismissal.

[Mizzou_Fan]

gatorhater, on 10 July 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

Negative.  Very few schools nationwide enforce testing the way Michael Adams has set it up to work.  Only 2 SEC schools enforce mandatory suspensions for first-time offenders (UGA and Kentucky).

SEC
Alabama: (1) none; (2) 15 percent of games; (3) one year; (4) dismissal.
Arkansas: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) 50 percent of games; (4) dismissal.
Auburn: (1) none; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Florida: For marijuana/synthetic marijuana: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) 20 percent of games; (4) dismissal. For all other drugs: (1) 50 percent of games; (2) dismissal.
Georgia: (1) 10 percent of games; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Kentucky: (1) 10 percent of games; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
LSU: (1) none; (2) "up to 15 percent of games;" (3) one year.
Ole Miss: (1) none; (2) none; (3) three games.
Mississippi State: (1) none; (2) 50 percent of games; (3) one year; (4) dismissal.
South Carolina: (1) none; (2) 25 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Tennessee: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) dismissal.
Texas A&M: (1) none; (2) "possible suspension;" (3) possible dismissal.

Where are Vandy and Mizzou on that list?

[Mizzou_Fan]

I think that the NCAA should make a set number of suspensions and dismissal for all student athletes. All schools must follow it but they could make it a longer suspension or more severe if thats what the school wants.  http://www.columbiam...created-equally

[Herschel Talker]

Mizzou_Fan, on 10 July 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Where are Vandy and Mizzou on that list?

Vandy is private and not subject to public records requests.  Not sure about Mizzou.