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[HobnailedBoots]

NextYearIsHere, on 26 January 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

But whatever, I'm just trying to say that why don't people embrace a song that isn't full of negative connotations for millions of Americans? I'd prefer the South move forward from what happened 150 years ago anyways

Or the people that are offended could just move forward from what happened 150 years ago...

Edited by HobnailedBoots, 26 January 2012 - 03:02 PM.

[OmahaBound]

Is it weird that whenever someone refers to 'Dixie' I think about Bugs Bunny singing it in a few cartoons?

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[Herschel Talker]

There's a lot more to "Dixie" and the South in general than racism and slavery.  Why should we ignore all that history and heritage?

[ForwardRebels]

NextYearIsHere, on 26 January 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

You mentioned that Americans have a right to listen to that song, and I don't deny that. However, I find it ironic that the song represents the Confederacy, an institution which would have not granted all men equal rights. Just an observation.

And if I'm honest, I like the tune as well. But it offends a lot of people. Same with the Confederate flag. It doesn't bother me, but I'd rather not fly it because of some of the things it represented. Also, I consider myself an American and choose not to fly the flag that would have broken apart our country.

But whatever, I'm just trying to say that why don't people embrace a song that isn't full of negative connotations for millions of Americans? I'd prefer the South move forward from what happened 150 years ago anyways

More responses for you:
1. Fwiw, "God Save the South" was the official national anthem of the CSA. Ergo, that song "officialy" represents the CSA, as does the motto, "Deo Vindice".
2. Well now, NYIH, you are avoiding a couple of my questions. Please answer them. Again I ask, what would you define as "the American way of life"? Also, what would you define as the Confederate way of life?
3. The United States did not grant equal rights to all officially until 1965. For 4 years, the CSA rebelled and seceded from the USA. Ergo, to claim that the CSA and the songs that are akin to it are the epitome of negligence to the Constitution, as you are doing, is to use extremely faulty logic. Let's compare the two here; USA= 185 years of denying equal rights to all and CSA= 4 years of denying equal rights to all.  
4. So, using your logic, you do not do the following: stand at attention during the national anthem of the US and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Is that correct? I mean come on now, if you did, you stand to offend someone.

[1dawgfan09]

Vader, on 26 January 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

Little historic note, Abe Lincoln was very fond of Dixie and even requested it be played more than once by Union regimental bands when visiting troops.

As for what it does or does not represent, all I can say is what it represents to me. You see this song, like all songs have their own meaning to each person. I cannot make it represent what I want to anyone any more than they could make me feel what it mans to them.

To me it represents my history. And I don't mean just the history of the South or even Alabama but I mean my own family. Like many here I had forefathers who fought and suffered under the Confederate Banner. I had three ancestors who fought with the Army of Northern Virginia and at least two in the Army of Tennessee. They fought in places like Shilo, Chattanooga, Antetham and even that hill in Pennsylvania that was mentioned earlier. I know one was a slave holder but the others were dirt poor. What they fought for was not just slavery but to defend their homes from an invading army. They were no different in this from their northern counterparts in that they likewise were not concerned with slavery but rather the preservation of the Union.

Of course I never met any of these ancestors of mine. To me they really are only names in a very old family tree in a very old family bible. But still, I know they had to be good and decent men who loved their land and their family. Though wrong about the issue of slavery in their hearts they were not evil but rather just men. For this I must honor their memory and willingness to stand up and defend their family and home. Dixie was a song adopted by their cause and this to me when I hear it, it represents them, my ancestors, my kin. And I honor them and thus I honor Dixie.

This is it. This is all that needs to be said. The conversation should have ended here. People have to stop judging history through modern lenses. The South was wrong about slavery. We have paid for our sins a thousand times since then. Let us come down off the cross. Southerners are not evil, child eating ogres. They were not then. They are not now. They were wrong, and they paid for it. We fear God as much as anybody. We love our children and our homes as much as anybody. We love our country, all of it now, as much as we should. Our record is expunged.

[RammaJamma]

I've said it here before but the Civil War had less to do with slavery and more to do with the export of goods cotton mainly from the port of Mobile. Freeing the slaves was just a way to stop our finance same as any war today. We attack the soldiers and the resources to fight back and just like any war money started it not the wrongs of slavery.

I also have ancestors that fought for CSA all those that have a problem with Dixie can kiss my southern ass.

[zartan]

1dawgfan09, on 26 January 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

This is it. This is all that needs to be said. The conversation should have ended here. People have to stop judging history through modern lenses. The South was wrong about slavery. We have paid for our sins a thousand times since then. Let us come down off the cross. Southerners are not evil, child eating ogres. They were not then. They are not now. They were wrong, and they paid for it. We fear God as much as anybody. We love our children and our homes as much as anybody. We love our country, all of it now, as much as we should. Our record is expunged.

Beautiful words, man. I'm as Yankee as it gets and I say that as costly as the Civil War was in human life, if keeping the South in the Union is the prize, it's worth it every time

[dcbl]

Buckwheat cakes and Injun Batter, Makes You Fat or a Little Fatter...

[IANSANANIMAL]

Thought the Video was good but.. no one beats ELVIS point blank period!!! I miss slow dixie

[jj06]

eh..not my cup of tea. I would feel slighty alienated  if I were at a football game and this song came on.

[ForwardRebels]

CoL.REB, on 29 January 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

Thought the Video was good but.. no one beats ELVIS point blank period!!! I miss slow dixie

You should talk to BBN4L/rebelfan91 about starting a petition to Dan Jones to bring the original back. New one sucks because it sucks.

[RammaJamma]

The awesomeness of this has been a topic many times in my time here.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=hID5Hu-SHxg

I see the words "the south will rise again" not as we'll all have slaves and whoop them yankees ass but as something that means the south will overcome the tragedy of the war. Similar to those used after the tornados in the south this past spring it means we will come together like the great southerners we are and get through and rebuild.

As a white person slavery was wrong but I feel worse about the 1960's we've came a long way but we can never give up our heritage.

[bijoukaiba]

High school me: How dare anyone even think "Dixie" is a good song! It symbolizes racism! "Land of cotton" - all it is is a shout-out to slavery!

College me: This song ain't half-bad. It has a very spirited melody and it is one of the songs that best symbolizes the South. Although it does have references to slavery and racism, and as much as one might want to eliminate that, there is no denying that it WAS there, and it WAS once part of this country's history, whether as the USA or the CSA. It might not be a very pleasant history, but it is still history nonetheless.