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[cocky4ever]

ElephanTideis, on 01 February 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

I just don't see where UGA or South Carolina have a huge lead on Missouri. They have a decent QB, RB, and now a WR that will demand a double team every week. I don't know much about their defense. Maybe I am giving them too much credit. We'll see.

They have an awesome offense. Guess who else had an awesome offense. clemson....until they played an SEC defense(Auburn doesn't count). georgia tech had an awesome offense....until they played an SEC defense. Mizzou went 7-5 in the big 12. Now they'll play in the SEC. Sure the East is weaker than the West, but they also have to play Bama and A&M from the West. SC, UGA, UF, and UT are all more talented than Mizzou. They may not lose all of those games, but I don't expect them to do better in their 1st year of SEC play than they did in the big 12 last year.

[cocky4ever]

HobnailedBoots, on 01 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

I don't think you're necessarily giving them too much credit, I just think you're underestimating how good Georgia and South Carolina will be. You're talking about two teams that won 10 games in the regular season last year, both had top 10 defenses and are both returning a lot of starters and could very well both be top 10 teams to start the year this Fall.

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SC lost two games last year, with one of those losses coming on the road against a legit top 5 team. UGA lost 2 regular season games, one to a 10 win SC team and another team that lost one game.

Mizzou lost 5 games in the regular season last year. Both SC and UGA return more than the new Tigers. I don't see Mizzou being in contention for the division in Nov. If they lose to both SC and UGA(pretty likely) they'll have to beat everyone else(including Bama), and hope that SC or UGA drops 3 conference games somewhere else. I don't see SC losing 3 SEC games, and I certainly don't see UGA losing 3 SEC games.

[ElephanTideis]

HobnailedBoots, on 01 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

I don't think you're necessarily giving them too much credit, I just think you're underestimating how good Georgia and South Carolina will be. You're talking about two teams that won 10 games in the regular season last year, both had top 10 defenses and are both returning a lot of starters and could very well both be top 10 teams to start the year this Fall.

Winning 10 games in the SEC East is akin to Bama going undefeated against the SEC West in basketball last season. I am not saying UGA and South Carolina won't be good teams but Missouri probably played a better schedule last year than both of y'all.

[HobnailedBoots]

ElephanTideis, on 01 February 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Winning 10 games in the SEC East is akin to Bama going undefeated against the SEC West in basketball last season. I am not saying UGA and South Carolina won't be good teams but Missouri probably played a better schedule last year than both of y'all.

You really think their schedule was the difference between 10-2 and 7-5? C'mon man, I know you're into this "we're the SEC West" crap but you're really reaching now. Missouri is more on the level with Tennessee or Vanderbilt than they are with either UGA or USC.

Edited by HobnailedBoots, 01 February 2012 - 04:46 PM.

[ElephanTideis]

HobnailedBoots, on 01 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

You really think their schedule was the difference between 10-2 and 7-5? C'mon man, I know you're into this "we're the SEC West" crap but you're really reaching now. Missouri is more on the level with Tennessee or Vanderbilt than they are with either UGA or USC.

You are probably right. I just think they will contend for the East with UGA and USC but not win it.

[MizzouMark]

http://msn.foxsports...-recruit-020112

This article explains in detail, how Dorial came to the decision to go with Mizzou

[HmanHunt]

MizzouMark, on 01 February 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

http://msn.foxsports...-recruit-020112

This article explains in detail, how Dorial came to the decision to go with Mizzou

Sounds a lot like the blind side to me

Edited by HmanHunt, 01 February 2012 - 11:39 PM.

[Squealliam Fatner]

I can't fault the kid for wanting to be the hometown hero. I do long for the days when kids just came out and said where they were going...

[MizzouMark]

HobnailedBoots, on 01 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

You really think their schedule was the difference between 10-2 and 7-5? C'mon man, I know you're into this "we're the SEC West" crap but you're really reaching now. Missouri is more on the level with Tennessee or Vanderbilt than they are with either UGA or USC.

You've got some good points, but we had 9 starters out at one point due to injuries including 3 seniors, we had a guard playing center for the first time in his life, had our punter kicking field goals, had a first year quarterback, and had our 3rd string running back with no one to relieve him for several games, and we still strung together 8 wins with a 4 win streak and a bowl win to cap it off.... I by no means think we win the east, but you can count on us proving to you that we belong.

Edited by MizzouMark, 02 February 2012 - 02:50 AM.

[cocky4ever]

MizzouMark, on 02 February 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

You've got some good points, but we had 9 starters out at one point due to injuries including 3 seniors, we had a guard playing center for the first time in his life, had our punter kicking field goals, had a first year quarterback, and had our 3rd string running back with no one to relieve him for several games, and we still strung together 8 wins with a 4 win streak and a bowl win to cap it off.... I by no means think we win the east, but you can count on us proving to you that we belong.

I think yall will be a good addition to the SEC, but the injury bug probably won't be any better for yall in the next few years unless yall have a good S&C coach. That's one of the most under-rated positions in the SEC(and country). When Holtz was here our players were out of shape and banged all to hell by the time November got here, and I think in his many years here we only won a few games in November. We were just hurt and worn down by then.

Now we actually have the depth and conditioning to put together entire seasons and can actually handle injuries. This year our starting QB played less than half the season(not due to injury though). We played the last 5 games with our FIFTH string RB. We had defensive players in and out all season, along with some other offensive players. I expect yall to fit in, but there will definitely be some growing pains.

[WayzUp]

A 10 page thread on this guy?  Pffftt....he'll probably be pumping gas somewhere 4 years from now.