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Chip Kelly is Done
Started by HFS, Jul 01 2011 11:31 AM
#16
Posted 01 July 2011 - 03:43 PM
Where is Oregon Lou?
#17
Posted 01 July 2011 - 04:54 PM
PaperShaker said:
Man this stuff is getting old. Two of the best coaches in the sport right now (Chip and Tressel) are now gone and two schools prepped to make a title run are going to flounder around in the wake of NCAA violations. I wish the season would hurry up and get here so we could get to playing some football!
I disagree....the best coaches in the sport are those who don't have to cut corners and/or cheat in order to win.
And whether they flounder or just do what Bama and did & enjoy a less than usual level of success while they went through the sanction years is on them. Like Bama, maybe they'll build it back up the right way and go after a championship a few years from now. I kinda doubt they will, myself....OSU has a better chance than Oregon but who knows how far the Oregon thing goes & how long it's been going on & whether the NCAA finds any of that out.
I'm glad a lot of these things are blowing up in the off-season...this is prime recruiting time for next year's classes and three big players who have been recruiting nationally aren't going to be for quite a while. That none of those (southern cal, osu, oregon) are in the SEC will make it easier on teams from our conference to 1) do more national recruiting than usual if desired and, 2) keep our home state talent and pipeline state talent from going to Ohio, California or Oregon to play their college football.
They're getting what they deserve....I feel bad for the players on those teams who didn't ask for any of this which is why I think if any program gets busted for doing this type of crap and are found guilty of X-number of major violations, that ANY player on their team be allowed out of their scholarship & allowed to play THE VERY NEXT SEASON for whomever they can transfer to - with no conditional releases.
Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
#18
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:07 PM
HFS said:
It's exactly the same as if Auburn paid Cecil Newton to steer Cam to Auburn. The EXACT same thing
You say that like they didnt.....
#19
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:08 PM
cocky4ever said:
You say that like they didnt.....
Well, if we did, we at least weren't stupid enough to write a check.
#20
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:10 PM
But if the recruit didn't know then no fault no foul, right?
HFS said:
Oregon took a guy that already had a deep relationship with high profile recruits and paid him $25,000 to use his relationship to steer them to Oregon. Plus, Kelly and the University of Oregon lied to the NCAA in regards to what Lyles provided them for the payment.
It's exactly the same as if Auburn paid Cecil Newton to steer Cam to Auburn. The EXACT same thing, and Kelly tried to cover it up.
It's exactly the same as if Auburn paid Cecil Newton to steer Cam to Auburn. The EXACT same thing, and Kelly tried to cover it up.
After everything is said and done, more is said than done. - Noah
#21
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:11 PM
Ya know what's great about this? No coach with any sense will take that job now. Mullen is safe. lol
If Ole Miss wins this season's Egg Bowl, I will change my username to FreezeownsMullen for the duration of one complete year. And I will also add a picture of the Ole Most players celebrating in DWS.
When State wins, Rebelfan4life must rename himself MSUownsOM for the duration of one complete year.
When State wins, Rebelfan4life must rename himself MSUownsOM for the duration of one complete year.
#22
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:13 PM
Noah.Dreams said:
But if the recruit didn't know then no fault no foul, right?
I know you're being facetious, but I'm implying also that Cecil spilled the beans.
#23
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:29 PM
#24
Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:31 PM
#25
Posted 01 July 2011 - 06:03 PM
#26
Posted 01 July 2011 - 06:19 PM
WayzUp said:
They're getting what they deserve....I feel bad for the players on those teams who didn't ask for any of this which is why I think if any program gets busted for doing this type of crap and are found guilty of X-number of major violations, that ANY player on their team be allowed out of their scholarship & allowed to play THE VERY NEXT SEASON for whomever they can transfer to - with no conditional releases.
#27
Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:05 PM
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#28
Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:17 PM
HFS said:
This is literally the equivalent of Cecil Newton coming out and saying that we paid him to steer Cam and showing the NCAA the paper trail of the payment.
Oregon can't even dance around this. Kelly will be gone before the end of the weekend once ESPN reports it.
Oregon can't even dance around this. Kelly will be gone before the end of the weekend once ESPN reports it.
Looks like they've updated an earlier story about most of it:
Report: Willie Lyles gave Oregon profiles retroactively - ESPN
ESPN's version actually tries to touch a little heat to LSU as well.
"In May, Lyles defended himself in an online podcast with FoxSports.com columnist Jason Whitlock, calling allegations that he asked Texas A&M to "beat" an $80,000 offer for star recruit Patrick Peterson "unequivocally false." On March 30, former Texas A&M cornerbacks coach Van Malone told ESPN's Kelly Naqi that Lyles had phoned him to say it would take $80,000 to get Peterson, who wound up at LSU and was drafted in the first round of the 2011 NFL draft by the Arizona Cardinals."
Doubt anything come from the LSU inference, but the UO story is full of nasty allegations, like this:
"Lyles said he was involved in getting LaMichael James to finish the final semester of his senior year of high school in Arkansas so he could avoid a standardized Texas math test which he had not passed. Lyles said Kelly told him it was a great idea, Yahoo! Sports reported."

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#29
Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:20 PM
ROFLMAO First the Suckeyes and now the Oregon Sucks. Is every team whose fanbase was beating the "SEC = cheaters" drum gonna get slammed with probation?
#30
Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:24 PM
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