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Team A       Team B
Scoring Offense 44 ppg 34 ppg
Total Offense 497 ypg 317 ypg
Scoring Defense 18 ppg 14 ppg
Total Defense 258 ypg 277 ypg
Rush Offense 242 ypg 167 ypg
Pass Offense 255 ypg 151 ypg
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A blind comparison....Alabama vs. Nevada

              Team A              Team B
Record     3-0                    3-0
Yds/GM    560.3                 542.0
PYds/GM  258.3                 298.0
Ryds/GM  302.0                 250.7
PTs/GM    50.7                    44.7

See how easy this is?

Your comparison is completely apples and oranges.  When KY plays someone other than Indiana School for the blind, then let us know.

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Fatty said:

A blind comparison....Alabama vs. Nevada

              Team A              Team B
Record     3-0                    3-0
Yds/GM    560.3                 542.0
PYds/GM  258.3                 298.0
Ryds/GM  302.0                 250.7
PTs/GM    50.7                    44.7

See how easy this is?

Your comparison is completely apples and oranges.  When KY plays someone other than Indiana School for the blind, then let us know.


Who exactly has Florida played?
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Team A
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Louisville (1-2)
W. Kentucky (0-3)
Akron (0-3)

Total Opp record (1-8)

Team B
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Miami (OH) (2-1)
USF (1-1)
Tennessee (1-2)

Total Opp Record (4-4)

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Fatty said:

A blind comparison....Alabama vs. Nevada

              Team A              Team B
Record     3-0                    3-0
Yds/GM    560.3                 542.0
PYds/GM  258.3                 298.0
Ryds/GM  302.0                 250.7
PTs/GM    50.7                    44.7

See how easy this is?

Your comparison is completely apples and oranges.  When KY plays someone other than Indiana School for the blind, then let us know.

I actually think it's a neat comparison and it tells a little bit about each team. You could even throw in....

Team A - 0 bad snaps
Team B - 100,000,000 bad snaps

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HobnailedBoots said:

Who exactly has Florida played?

FL's schedule strength is 44.  Higher than Alabama (60), South Carolina (63), Arkansas (133), Auburn (65), and dead last in the conference...Kentucky at (173).

The teams in the SEC with a higher SOS are Tennessee (10), MSST (13), Vandy (14), Georgia (15) and LSU (32).

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Fatty said:

FL's schedule strength is 44. Higher than Alabama (60), South Carolina (63), Arkansas (133), Auburn (65), and dead last in the conference...Kentucky at (173).

The teams in the SEC with a higher SOS are Tennessee (10), MSST (13), Vandy (14), Georgia (15) and LSU (32).


LOL!

not even going to ask where you got that info. But I do have a pretty good idea where you pulled it out of

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Here are 2 other important stats that were left out.

Opponents Combined Sagarin Rating: Team A 428 Team B 184
Stregth of Schedule Sagarin Rating: Team A 173 Team B 44

Does KY have a shot at beating FL in the Swamp....Yes, probably their best shot since '86, but these stats only show that KY has put up better numbers against weaker opponents. Should be a good game but the gators still come away with the win IMO.

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bmccall said:

LOL!

not even going to ask where you got that info. But I do have a pretty good idea where you pulled it out of

I "pulled" it from the same place that the BCS gets their SOS input from.  Just because it doesn't line up with the homerism on this board, makes it shocking to everyone.

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Fatty said:

I "pulled" it from the same place that the BCS gets their SOS input from. Just because it doesn't line up with the homerism on this board, makes it shocking to everyone.

where would that place be?

my only issue is that it doesn't line up with Phil Steele, Rivals, or any other source I could find. Technically, it doesn't line up with facts.

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Here's a fun stat.

Team A - Outscored opponents 30-7 in first quarter so far this year.

Team B - Outscored BY opponents 13-0 in the first quarter so far this year.
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As the season progresses and there's more "relationships" established it gives the mathematical algorythm more reference points and dials it in.

Most important are the SOS calculations, because those are pretty unbiased.  It basically takes into account the minimum predictor a team would need to beat half their weighted average opponents.  It even accounts somewhat for home field advantage (which Sagarin starts out at a set number (3) and then adjusts from there).

So, given this weekends UF-UK game, basically UF has a "predictor" of 90.75.  Add 3 points for home field advantage (93.75).  Kentucky has a predictor of 76.96.  Take the delta and you get a "predicted" outcome of UF by 16.79 points.

Granted, it's all mathematical, and like I said, it gains traction the further the season runs (which is probably why the BCS doesn't release standings for the first few weeks), but it gives you a rough idea of where teams are ranked.

Obviously, larger number disparities give a more accurate predictor and teams with similar or identical predictors, the outcome becomes close to a coin flip.

The rankings don't take into account things like UF's fumbles or turnovers or bad snaps or all the other aspects of the game other than score, opponents score, etc.

But the flip side of that knife is that this is the predictor for the game WITH UF making all those mistakes.  If UF plays BETTER than they have recently, the game could turn into a blowout.  These predictors take into account how the team has faired/played up to this point in the season given it's opponents thus far.  So basically, it's saying, if UF does what it has been doing thus far, it's still a 17 point favorite.

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Ralliartist said:

Here's a fun stat.

Team A - Outscored opponents 30-7 in first quarter so far this year.

Team B - Outscored BY opponents 13-0 in the first quarter so far this year.

Here's another fun stat....football games in the NCAA are 4 quarters.  Not 1 quarter.  Now do the stats for the second half and see what happens.

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Fatty said:

Here's another fun stat....football games in the NCAA are 4 quarters.  Not 1 quarter.  Now do the stats for the second half and see what happens.

naaaa, it's more fun to annoy you.
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I really like this stat. This one explains what most of us realize about the gators, and what gator fans are delusional about.

Team A - Returns a seasoned QB and 2 biggest offensive weapons/production from last year.

Team B - Lost 96% of offensive production from last year. 60% of the rest of the output left with that one player. Also only returning ONE of 5 top recievers.
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