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I know foul language is used in the military and in most folk's everyday language. But I really do find it overdone/ used in The Pacific, it's over the top.....I don't believe it was the F bomb was used that heavily in BoB, in fact I know it wasn't.

I know, y'all are gonna say if I don't like it, then don't watch it, but that's not the point, if it's not 'F' then it's GD or JC anything to offend. I love the series so far, but I'm confident that in the 40's the F word or GD wasn't used nearly as much as they portray it in the series. I'd say very few soldiers used foul language back then......and foul language in the 40's was more like Damn, Hell and Shite. Shoot, I can remember my momma no letting us watch All in the Family when it came out because Archie said Hell and Damn, groundbreaking language on t.v. back then.

I could understand under some very stressful/ scary situations during firefight scenes of a few men saying it, but they have almost every single character using the F@#K. It's overblown......and the series really didn't need that heavy use of that word and GD to be a great series..it adds nothing to it.

Sorry, I just had to opine on this......it's been bothering me for a few days especially after my wife commented on it, she loves the series too (she loved BoB also).

Hope I'm not the only one on here that is sick of Hollywood's shoving down our throats language that prevents my 15 yr.old from being able to watch great historical films.

Edited by UKat, 24 March 2010 - 04:40 PM.

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I agree with you here.  Using a different example, I really like the movies Step Brothers and Superbad, but the use of the f word is completely over the top.  It seems like it's in every sentence and then the dialog just seems to run together.  "What the f are we gonna do?  We're so f'ed.  This is so f'ed up.  F this."  What happened to quality writing?

I haven't seen the Pacific, but I certainly understand where you're coming from.

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Linkovich said:

I agree with you here.  Using a different example, I really like the movies Step Brothers and Superbad, but the use of the f word is completely over the top.  It seems like it's in every sentence and then the dialog just seems to run together.  "What the f are we gonna do?  We're so f'ed.  This is so f'ed up.  F this."  What happened to quality writing?

I haven't seen the Pacific, but I certainly understand where you're coming from.
It is used in almost every sentence in the Pacific. Just an epic fail on that part of the series. As I said, I'm sure a few soldiers used that kind of language in the 40's, but I'd say very few.....people back then had stronger Christian morals and again, Damn and Hell were pretty strong curse words in the 40's. I'd bet a lot of money that F@#k was rarely used.
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Marines use salty language.
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Linkovich said:

I agree with you here.  Using a different example, I really like the movies Step Brothers and Superbad, but the use of the f word is completely over the top.  It seems like it's in every sentence and then the dialog just seems to run together.  "What the f are we gonna do?  We're so f'ed.  This is so f'ed up.  F this."  What happened to quality writing?

If you're looking for quality writing in Step Brothers and Superbad then I'd say the problem is with your standards.

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I see your point here, and I tend to agree.  Less F bombs and no GD, and all movies would be better, ten fold.
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I definitely could do without all the GD's, but less F bombs, can't agree with you there.
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Soldiers and Marines curse...a lot.  They did back then too.  I'm sure they dropped plenty of f bombs back in the day.  Not saying that it's necessary for the show, but I tend to disagree that they didn't talk like that back then.

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Robzilla said:

Soldiers and Marines curse...a lot.  They did back then too.  I'm sure they dropped plenty of f bombs back in the day.  Not saying that it's necessary for the show, but I tend to disagree that they didn't talk like that back then.

I have to agree with this.  It's not like foul language is a 21st century invention.

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I see where you're coming from... but on the other end of the spectrum, how frustrating is it that they make such a blatant effort to keep 24 pretty clean? Imagine if it had been an HBO series....

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PharmDawg87 said:

I have to agree with this.  It's not like foul language is a 21st century invention.
No, it's not.........but I'm 52 yrs. old and I can assure you that in the 60's folks didn't use foul language like they do now. Sure men would say Damn or Hell...and on occasional Shite, but you rarely heard them say F@#k.

And as I stated earlier, I'm confident f@#k wasn't a common cuss word in the 40's, and yes I do know that Marines curse a lot, but not ALL marines and far fewer back then.
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JerryBeeds said:

Marines use salty language.
Yes they do, but not with the frequency and the f's back in the 40's. Folks had stronger morals back then. Don't get me wrong.....I know some curse a lot, but f@#k wasn't commonly used.

Oh well, I made my point, really doesn't matter....I can't change it.
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UKat said:

No, it's not.........but I'm 52 yrs. old and I can assure you that in the 60's folks didn't use foul language like they do now. Sure men would say Damn or Hell...and on occasional Shite, but you rarely heard them say F@#k.


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In 1928, D. H. Lawrence's novel Lady Chatterley's Lover gained notoriety for its frequent use of the words f**k, f**ked, and f**king. Perhaps the earliest usage of the word in popular music was the 1938 Eddy Duchin release of the Louis Armstrong song "Ol' Man Mose". The words created a scandal at the time, resulting in sales of 170,000 copies during the Great Depression years when sales of 20,000 were considered blockbuster. The verse reads:

(We believe) He kicked the bucket,
(We believe) Yeah man, buck-buck-bucket,
(We believe) He kicked the bucket and ol' man mose is dead,
(We believe) Ahh, f**k it!
(We believe) Buck-buck-bucket,
(We believe) He kicked the bucket and ol' man mose is dead.

The liberal usage of the word (and other vulgarisms) by certain artists (such as James Joyce, Henry Miller, Lenny Bruce, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, in their Derek and Clive personas) has led to the banning of their works and criminal charges of obscenity. After Norman Mailer's publishers convinced him to bowdlerize f**k as fug in his work The Naked and the Dead (1948), Tallulah Bankhead supposedly greeted him with the quip, "So you're the young man who can't spell f**k." In fact, according to Mailer, the quip was devised by Bankhead's PR man. He and Bankhead didn't meet until 1966 and did not discuss the word then. The rock group The Fugs named themselves after the Mailer euphemism.
The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger featured an early use of f**k you in print. First published in the United States in 1951, the novel remains controversial to this day due to its use of the word, standing at number 13 for the most banned books from 1990–2000 according to the American Library Association.[9] The book offers a blunt portrayal of the main character's reaction to the existence of the word, and all that it means.
One of the earliest mainstream Hollywood movies to use the word f**k was director Robert Altman's irreverent antiwar film, MASH, released in 1970 at the height of the Vietnam War. During the football game sequence about three-quarters of the way through the film, one of the MASH linemen says to an 8063rd offensive player, "All right, bud, your f**kin' head is coming right off." Also, former Beatle John Lennon's 1971 release "Working Class Hero" featured use of the word, which was rare in music at the time and caused it to, at most, be played only in segments on the radio.




In 1965, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson said to the Greek ambassador Alexandros Matsas when he objected to American plans in Cyprus, "F**k your parliament and your constitution."

During the 1968 Democratic National Convention, Chicago mayor Richard Daley became so enraged by a speech from Abraham A. Ribicoff that he shouted "F**k you!"

The films Ulysses and I'll Never Forget What's'isname (both 1967) are contenders for being the first film to use the word 'f**k,' although the word 'f**king' is clearly mouthed silently in the film Sink the Bismarck! (1960), and the title character says it in the cartoon Bosko's Picture Show (1933).

In 1971, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the mere public display of f**k is protected under the First and Fourteenth Amendments and cannot be made a criminal offense. In 1968, Paul Robert Cohen had been convicted of "disturbing the peace" for wearing a jacket with "F**K THE DRAFT" on it (in reference to conscription in the Vietnam War). The conviction was upheld by the Court of Appeals and overturned by the Supreme Court. Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).








None of that says anything about how much people used it, but I can't believe that if movie-makers, musicians and authors were trying to slip it in, with censorship being as bad as it was back then, that Marines in WWII weren't swearing constantly.

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I don't know UKat.. my Grandpa had a pretty bad mouth on him, and I have been in two different nursing homes, and both of them made Marines sound like toddlers.
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