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[RoyalDBridge]

SEC quarterbacks include Big Two and everybody else - ESPN

No wonder Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops dismissed part of the SEC's defensive prowess as being a league that's light on quarterback talent.
"They could have better defensive people overall, but it's easier to play better defense when you're not going against a great quarterback," Stoops said. "When the guy behind center isn't special, it's always a lot easier to defend."

Are you crapping me Bob?! It's easier to defend when you're not going against a "great quarterback"?! Do you mean like a Heisman winner? You know, like YOUR FRIGGIN' QUARTERBACK!! The one Florida held to 26 for 41 passing with TWO INTERCEPTIONS!! A grand total of 14 points from an offense that averaged 51 points a game on the season?!

This guy honestly should be shot for being that full of shiat. :chair:

Edited by RoyalDBridge, 27 August 2009 - 08:34 AM.

[nojive]

It's funny because Tim Tebow isn't a great quarterback. Really, Bob Stoops, it's amazing you couldn't stop him.

[zartan]

regardless of results, if you expect every other conference, coach, and player to bow and grovel before the greatness of the SEC, it isn't going to happen.

[GatorHunter]

Amazing that he's got the stones to open his mouth regarding the SEC. The SEC proved what all of us believed from the start when assessing the Big 12's gawdy offensive stats...they don't even play defense...I guess the opposite is true regarding the Big 12...it's easy to have "special" quarterbacks when they don't have to face good defenses.

[RoyalDBridge]

zartan said:

regardless of results, if you expect every other conference, coach, and player to bow and grovel before the greatness of the SEC, it isn't going to happen.

I wouldn't expect bowing and groveling (hell, I'm a Kentucky fan), just realism. That is beyond the pale of a ridiculous thing to say after your Heisman winner got his talented ass handed to him by a defense from a league that can't handle "great quarterbacks".

For further emphasis let's look at Ole Miss versus Texas Tech. Two great quarterbacks versus two defenses. Which one held the other's "great quarterback" to less points? The one from the league that can't handle "great quarterbacks".

Edited by RoyalDBridge, 27 August 2009 - 08:01 AM.

[TheRealBrave]

[TheRealBrave]

The SEC clearly had no good Quarterbacks last year, Snead and Tebow just got lucky against Big-12 Teams, and Matthew Stafford wasn't the 1st pick of the NFL Draft as a Junior.

[zartan]

he's right if he's saying the Big 12 had better QBs than the SEC did last year. the SEC had a lot of just plain bad offenses last year.

[Neo]

Hey Stoops!

Jealous much?

This guy is an ass. Considering that he came from the SEC, he should know better. By the way, he has a lot of nerve talking that smack given the fact that Oklahoma seems to choke in the big games. (LSU & Florida)

[razorhead]

zartan said:

regardless of results, if you expect every other conference, coach, and player to bow and grovel before the greatness of the SEC, it isn't going to happen.

I think you like just like to argue with people. Your day isn't complete until you enrage the masses.

[GatorUnvrsty]

What a putz... Big Game Boob ain't got a clue. We all saw what happened to their "super-human" QB's once they faced something other than the defensively-challenged sieves from the Big 12.

[GatorUnvrsty]

zartan said:

he's right if he's saying the Big 12 had better QBs than the SEC did last year. the SEC had a lot of just plain bad offenses last year.

BS. Tebow, Snead, and Stafford would have looked every bit as good or better than Bradford, McCoy, and Harrell if they'd gotten to throw all over those sorry excuses for defenses.

[deezvols]

tell stoops to win a bowl game against an SEC team and then he can talk.....

[RoyalDBridge]

zartan said:

he's right if he's saying the Big 12 had better QBs than the SEC did last year. the SEC had a lot of just plain bad offenses last year.

Sure did. Too bad that ain't what he said. Had he, I wouldn't be gripin' now.

At the end of the season I believe we were able to discern that the SEC defenses were more elite when compared to the Big 12 defenses than were the Big 12 offenses to the SEC offenses.

Florida's total offensive numbers would be right in the middle of the Big 12 pack (note: a full 6 SEC offenses would at least hit the board in the Big 12). Clearly their offenses were stronger. On the flipside, however, is the fact that the number one defense in the Big 12 BARELY ekes into the SEC at 12th (bumping Arkansas to "13th"). Leaving 11 SEC defenses as "best in the Big 12".

It brings into question as a previous poster said, how good would the SEC offenses be against the porous Big 12 Ds? Double-edged sword if there ever was one.

Edited by RoyalDBridge, 27 August 2009 - 08:58 AM.

[GatorUnvrsty]

RoyalDBridge said:

Sure did. Too bad that ain't what he said. Had he, I wouldn't be gripin' now.

At the end of the season I believe we were able to discern that the SEC defenses were more elite when compared to the Big 12 defenses than were the Big 12 offenses to the SEC offenses.

Florida's total offensive numbers would be right in the middle of the Big 12 pack (note: a full 6 SEC offenses would at least hit the board in the Big 12). Clearly their offenses were stronger. On the flipside, however, is the fact that the number one defense in the Big 12 BARELY ekes into the SEC at 12th (bumping Arkansas to "13th"). Leaving 11 SEC defenses as "best in the Big 12".

It brings into question as a previous poster said, how good would the SEC offenses be against the porous Big 12 Ds? Double-edged sword if there ever was one.

Yeah, the numbers tell a very different story than the one ol' Big Game is trying to serve up...

Forget how SEC defenses played against teams from their own conference for a second, and forget the sieve-like defenses Big 12 QB's got to compile stats against all year... and let's look at how the conferences' offenses and defenses played against each other.

Florida's D held OU's offense 37 points below their average; and made their Heisman Trophy winner not only look human, but downright average. On the season, Bradford had a 180.84 QB rating... against Florida, the first good defense he saw all season, it was 122.20.

Then, look at Ole Miss and TT. Ole Miss held TT 10 points below their season average; and their offense scored more points against TT than any other team on their schedule, except 4-8 Louisiana- Monroe. Their defense also made Harrell look bad, keeping his QB rating at 130.65... 30 points below his average.

Even Ohio State's defense made Texas look bad. If not for a DC mistake with 30 seconds to play, they'd have beaten Texas. As it was, tOSU held UT to 18 points below their season average. McCoy wasn't anything special once he got out of his own defensively-challenged conference, either. His QB rating in the game was 138.58, 35 points below his average of 173.74.

Face it, Big Game, it's not poor offenses in the SEC and other conferences that make the defensive stats look good. It's the pathetic defenses in the Big 12 making their offenses and QB's look good... that was proved beyond any doubt in the postseason.