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Israel land invasion of Gaza begins

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View PostThe Joker, on 31 July 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:



And get you're head outta the proverbial sand....


We all know who the aggressors are in this conflict and believe me, history is NOT on your side nor does it "prop up" your argument.

Bs. Your so one sided u cant be subjective enough to make a point. Your making your decision purely on religious ideas I am almost certain. Israel wasnt even a state when jesus was around.

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View PostDjCrenshaw, on 31 July 2014 - 08:58 AM, said:

Bs. Your so one sided u cant be subjective enough to make a point. Your making your decision purely on religious ideas I am almost certain. Israel wasnt even a state when jesus was around.


Boy! You really are that ignorant in this case...

This is recorded history. It's not open for debate. Pick up a book and read it sometime. You know, a book that doesn't have "pop-up" pictures and the like. A real book.

Just because it doesn't fit "your" version of the facts doesn't make it false.

View PostThe Joker, on 31 July 2014 - 06:32 AM, said:

History states that the land was originally owned by the Jews (Decendants of the Jews) and they were displaced by the Romans and Ottoman Turks (Muslims). The Turks then gave the land to the British who in turn, gave it back to the Jews with the creation of the state of Israel.

When the British split the Mandate of Palestine up in 1948, most of it became Jordan, while the coastal strip was split into the Jewish State and Arab State.

The Arabs didn't like the partition, so they attacked and were defeated by the Israelis, who expanded their country. In 1967 (The Six Day War of 67).  The Israelis launched a strike against Jordan, Syria and Egypt, and conquered the Golan Heights, Gaza Strip, West Bank (all three are still occupied) and the Sinai Peninsula (which was later returned to Egypt).

The UN asked the Israelis to pull back their forces to the border before the Six Day War, but they refused given that this was territory that was conquered in war.

So under international law, Israel is mostly for the Jews, but parts of it, the Palestinian Territories (Gaza and the West Bank), are illegally occupied and belong to the Palestinians.

The problem with the "occupied territories" is that Israel has a right to defend herself and if that means forming a blockade around the West Bank and Gaza, then so be it. Remember, the Palestinians elected a KNOWN terrorist organization to represent them as their government. At that moment, they pi$$ed away any credibility that they had or would have earned along with any and all respect.

Edited by The Joker, 31 July 2014 - 09:03 AM.

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View PostThe Joker, on 31 July 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

The nations surrounding them have sworn to their destruction. 99.9% of the time, when the Israeli military gets involved, it's in self defense.

Most of them have decided it's not worth picking fights they can't win.  Jordan, Egypt and even Syria to an extent don't want to play that game any more.  Of course the unspoken threat of "We can and will turn your capital into radioactive glass" probably helps with that.

There's a high degree of probability that the Israeli submarines carry nuclear tipped ballistic missiles.  There's also persistent rumors that the standing orders are to glass the major Arab cities should Israel be overrun...

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View PostThe Joker, on 31 July 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

Exactly.

All Israel has ever wanted was to live in peace and co-exist with the world. The problem? The nations surrounding them have sworn to their destruction. 99.9% of the time, when the Israeli military gets involved, it's in self defense.

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biblical jews != jewish refugees that were 'given' stolen lands.

again, this Posted Image is no different than calling western native americans terrorists bc they fought against white land grabs and genocide.

objectivity is hard.

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View PostThe Joker, on 31 July 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:




Exactly.

All Israel has ever wanted was to live in peace and co-exist with the world. The problem? The nations surrounding them have sworn to their destruction. 99.9% of the time, when the Israeli military gets involved, it's in self defense.

And palestinains just wanted to be left alone. Quit putting israel on a nondeserved pedistal.

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up til august 1st:

deaths

62 israeli soldiers
3 israeli civilians
191 palestinian militants
912 palestinian civilians - 140 women and 268 children
332 additional palestinians with unknown roles

PALESTINE BAD ISRAEL GOOD!

....except for the whole massive killing of civilians thing.




http://www.washingto...d/gaza-counter/

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View Postrwspear, on 01 August 2014 - 10:13 AM, said:

up til august 1st:

deaths

62 israeli soldiers
3 israeli civilians
191 palestinian militants
912 palestinian civilians - 140 women and 268 children
332 additional palestinians with unknown roles

PALESTINE BAD ISRAEL GOOD!

....except for the whole massive killing of civilians thing.




http://www.washingto...d/gaza-counter/

Tell the terrorist to quit hiding behind civilians

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View Postsmokeyone, on 01 August 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

Tell the terrorist to quit hiding behind civilians

Exactly!! Keep bombing the terrorist (Hamas)---- War is hell but as long as there is a thread by Hamas of bombs and tunnels to kill the Good Guys.....this war is going to keep on keeping on!  And tell Mr. Clueless President to quit making excuses ...what a total crock of clueless this socialist President is ....Worst Ever!!
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If you have a robber in a bank with a bunch of hostages, you don't bomb the bank.

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View PostDjCrenshaw, on 02 August 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

If you have a robber in a bank with a bunch of hostages, you don't bomb the bank.

If the bank robber is lobbing rockets at you, you do.

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Evil awful people. Can't be Christians.

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View PostDjCrenshaw, on 02 August 2014 - 05:01 PM, said:

Evil awful people. Can't be Christians.

True story, its Muslims vs Jews.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 02 August 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

True story, its Muslims vs Jews.

Well you surely aren't a christian.

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View PostDjCrenshaw, on 02 August 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

Well you surely aren't a christian.

Based on what? I ask because I am often labeled a Christian shill.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 02 August 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Based on what? I ask because I am often labeled a Christian shill.

Thought you weren't supposed to want anyone killed ever. I suppose the supporting of the murder of women and children can't be too Christian.






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