SECats, on 05 July 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:
I disagree....Billy does not recruit like Cal. When Cal took the job even Vitale said that Cal at UK would be special. Billy would have never gotten Davis, MKG, Wall, Noel or Cousins (to name a few). That isn't a slam on Billy D.
Dude, you're crazy, UK practically recruits itself; if you add any decent coach and competent recruiter it's simple. And had Billy taken the job in 2007, coming off back-to-back Natty's, they'd have been beating his door down to play for him at UK. That's just the truth.
When Cal arrived at UK, he hadn't won jack
; he used the UK name and promises of sending guys up in a year to land the recruits he did.
I'll concede that he's a good recruiter; but you're going to have to get honest and concede that recruiting to UK is probably easier than at any other program in the country... hell, I shouldn't even have to convince you of that the way all you guys constantly remind everyone UK is the all-time top program.
SECats, on 05 July 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:
Billy D would never have Cal's roster because he doesn't recruit like Cal (nobody does). 3 FF in 5 seasons with 3 completely different teams. The reason Cal hasn't won multiple titles yet isn't because he's not a good coach it's because it's new teams every year. This year will be #2 and if the nba goes to a two-year rule soon, ucla is going to get caught. Period. And sooner rather than later.
The only thing preventing Billy from having rosters like Cal is location... if Billy was at UK and Cal was at UF, the 2 schools' rosters would look very much like they have for the past 5 years.
Billy would still be UK's coach to this day and would have brought more titles to the school by now.
Alabama is the football equivalent of what you get when you combine the top program with the top coach and top recruiter. 3 titles in 4 years.
UK may be the top program and Cal may be the top recruiter, but he damn sure ain't the top coach, or his resume would look like Nick's... and it doesn't by a long shot.
SECats, on 05 July 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:
It would be incredibly selfish of Cal to tell a kid to come back if he's safely projected in the first round. Cal makes commitments to these kids to do what's best for THEM, not him or UK. Guaranteed money in the pros can change a kids life forever and it's Cal's responsibility to give them honest feedback (which he does)...most UK fans understand that we do one and done and are happy with that. The ones that are complaining are too stupid to appreciate or understand what is happening with UK basketball and who is responsible for it.
Billy is great at what he does. So is Cal.
It wouldn't be selfish if the kid truly had things to improve upon before going; and he did just that this year... kids came back who could have been drafted.
And every coach makes commitments to his kids; but every coach also has a job to do, and that's do what's best for his employer.
Like I said, it's a delicate balancing act; but Cal obviously saw some flaws in how he was doing things because he's made significant changes to his modus operandi for 2 straight years now.
Edited by GatorUnvrsty, 05 July 2014 - 09:14 PM.