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North Carolina school takes a stand on bullying that makes sense

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View Postcocky4ever, on 18 March 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

It comes down to the school to handle bullying accordingly. Teasing and taunting students is against he rules...his lunchbox wasn't.

If this was Arizona and a kid was being bullied for taking his American flag lunchbox would your solutions still be the same?? If not then you're focusing on the wrong aspects of the situation.

Kids picking on you for being a fan of faggy toy and kids disrespecting the USA are the same to you?

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:

Kids picking on you for being a fan of faggy toy and kids disrespecting the USA are the same to you?

His point is bullying is wrong, regardless of the reason. You just proved his point.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:



Kids picking on you for being a fan of faggy toy and kids disrespecting the USA are the same to you?

Your "solution" that makes sense is to let bullies dictate what people can and can't bring to school. It doesn't matter how you feel about his choices(though there are actually teenage boys(straight) who like my little pony....actually I think HFS likes it. Point is, your basing your opinion on how you feel about what he's being bullied over, which is the wrong way to look at it.

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View PostWadeWilson, on 18 March 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

His point is bullying is wrong, regardless of the reason. You just proved his point.

Moral equivalency is never a winning argument. And claiming a moral equivalency between my Lil pony and the USA invalidates their contribution to the discussion

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View Postcocky4ever, on 18 March 2014 - 01:07 PM, said:

Your "solution" that makes sense is to let bullies dictate what people can and can't bring to school. It doesn't matter how you feel about his choices(though there are actually teenage boys(straight) who like my little pony....actually I think HFS likes it. Point is, your basing your opinion on how you feel about what he's being bullied over, which is the wrong way to look at it.

Its school. The single kids protest at being picked on because of something they actively choose to bring to school caused the the issue for all parties involved. Remove the issue that the kid brought or overlook the kid being picked on because they brought it on them self is the reasonable adult answer. This isn't  a kid with an issue outside their control that needs the intervention of an adult. Its a kid that actively chooses to bring this on his self.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:



Its school. The single kids protest at being picked on because of something they actively choose to bring to school caused the the issue for all parties involved. Remove the issue that the kid brought or overlook the kid being picked on because they brought it on them self is the reasonable adult answer. This isn't  a kid with an issue outside their control that needs the intervention of an adult. Its a kid that actively chooses to bring this on his self.

Ok....so bullying isn't against the rules now. I didn't know that.

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View Postcocky4ever, on 18 March 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:

Ok....so bullying isn't against the rules now. I didn't know that.

You take some level or responsibility for the choices you make. The world has no obligation to protect you from your decisions.

This isn't some kid being picked on for a medical condition or tragic situation they have no control over.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Its school. The single kids protest at being picked on because of something they actively choose to bring to school caused the the issue for all parties involved. Remove the issue that the kid brought or overlook the kid being picked on because they brought it on them self is the reasonable adult answer. This isn't  a kid with an issue outside their control that needs the intervention of an adult. Its a kid that actively chooses to bring this on his self.

So is bullying wrong, or is My Little Pony wrong? If My Little Pony is wrong, then that means bullies get to pick and choose what is acceptable, because if MLP was acceptable they wouldn't bully the kid. So, with that in mind, what happens when they start bullying kids for being black? Is that now ok, and we can undo the Civil Rights Movement because bullies decided that being black was wrong?

The school tried to prevent bullying, which is commendable. But they targeted one child, which is bullying. They either need to make a policy on backpacks/lunchboxes to require them to be generic, or they need to let the kid bring what he wants and punish bullies, which has been the status quo for decades. But to overlook him being bullied because he brought it on himself is absolutely the stupidest post anyone has ever made on these forums, and there have been hundreds of stupid posts, so congrats.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

You take some level or responsibility for the choices you make. The world has no obligation to protect you from your decisions.

A school does have an obligation to protect kids... lmfao get out of here with your nonsense.

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View PostWadeWilson, on 18 March 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

A school does have an obligation to protect kids... lmfao get out of here with your nonsense.

And they met that obligation by telling the kid to not bring back the disruptive item.

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I think this is a job for possumslayer. He should start a business going from school to school to show parents how to keep their kids from being bullied.
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View PostWadeWilson, on 18 March 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

So is bullying wrong, or is My Little Pony wrong? If My Little Pony is wrong, then that means bullies get to pick and choose what is acceptable, because if MLP was acceptable they wouldn't bully the kid. So, with that in mind, what happens when they start bullying kids for being black? Is that now ok, and we can undo the Civil Rights Movement because bullies decided that being black was wrong?

The school tried to prevent bullying, which is commendable. But they targeted one child, which is bullying. They either need to make a policy on backpacks/lunchboxes to require them to be generic, or they need to let the kid bring what he wants and punish bullies, which has been the status quo for decades. But to overlook him being bullied because he brought it on himself is absolutely the stupidest post anyone has ever made on these forums, and there have been hundreds of stupid posts, so congrats.

Being black is generally considered to be outside the control of the individual thus has nothing in common with something you are actively choosing to do to yourself.

Why remove the privilege for everyone because 1 parent either can't or chose not to exercise reasonable judgment.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

And they met that obligation by telling the kid to not bring back the disruptive item.

So, now that the school has told this kid (publicly, no less), that he is weird for liking MLP and that he would get bullied for bringing MLP accessories to school, what is your response when those same bullies pick on him anyway? He complies with the request to not bring anything MLP, but he still gets picked on. Using your own words:

View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

or overlook the kid being picked on because they brought it on them self is the reasonable adult answer.

So since he didn't bring anything MLP-related in, the school should just overlook and ignore any bullying because, hey, fuck it, he's a weirdo and deserves it.

I hope your kids never have anything wrong with them that causes them to be the victims of bullying. But more than that, I hope you never have kids because you seem stupid and the world doesn't need kids being raised by morons.





View Postsmokeyone, on 18 March 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

Being black is generally considered to be outside the control of the individual thus has nothing in common with something you are actively choosing to do to yourself.

Why remove the privilege for everyone because 1 parent either can't or chose not to exercise reasonable judgment.

You practically said that bullying isn't wrong, it's up to bullies to determine what is and isn't wrong. So it doesn't matter if skin color is outside the control of the individual, if a bully deems it wrong, it's wrong.

You know what's sad? You are against the parent for not exercising reasonable judgment, not against the parents of the kids who would bully the kid who owns accessories of something he enjoys.

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While the boy having a My Little Pony backpack is a little odd imo, it still doesn't excuse the fact of the kids bullying.  The school really screwed the pooch here by simply asking the kid to bring a different back pack, like he was asking for it.  If that's what the kids likes he should be able to show it without being afraid of being bullied because of it.  Ridiculous situation, made even more so by the schools actions.






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