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Dee Ford talks trash about Clowney / NFL

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INDIANAPOLIS -- Dee Ford took aim at Jadeveon Clowney on Sunday, and minced no words in trying to establish himself as the top pass rusher in the NFL draft. Comparing Clowney's reckless style of play to "a blind dog in a meat market," the 6-foot-2, 250-pound pass rusher who was the star of the Senior Bowl didn't back off a bit.


"I'm better (than Clowney). Let's put it like this. People like to talk about size all the time. Size is pretty much overrated in my eyes," Ford said on Sirius XM NFL Radio Sunday. "You can look at guys like Robert Mathis, Elvis Dumervil, Von Miller. These are 6-2 guys and under. People are just looking at the fact that he's a physical specimen. Honestly if you watch the film, he plays like a blind dog in a meat market, basically."
Ford racked up 10.5 sacks, 14.5 tackles for loss and 17 quarterback hurries at Auburn last season, despite missing the team's first two games due to a knee injury that hampered him throughout the season. Ford said he sees Clowney and Missouri defensive end Kony Ealy as his only competition in the draft among pass rushers, and doesn't see why he's not expected to be chosen ahead of the South Carolina star who may be the first overall pick of the Houston Texans.

Ford also took a jab at the NFL and its personnel executives who he believes value physical measurables too highly.
"I play with a lot of technique, I watch a lot of film, these are the things that make you a great player. These are the things I do, and it shows up, rather than -- this is all my opinion -- you can see these things on film. Go watch the film," Ford said. "There are a lot of intangibles that you need to have to be a great player. You can't just look at the fact that he's a physical specimen. I think the NFL should have learned that by now."

And, perhaps, Ford should have by now learned that you don't criticize the methods of the very people you are trying to impress, at their own event.
Ford will get a chance to put his measurables up against Clowney Monday on NFL Network.

Edited by JohnRambo, 23 February 2014 - 04:49 PM.

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Such a riveting tale...

Glad he let everyone know. All this time we had it all wrong.

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View PostUAdan, on 23 February 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

10, 11 pages maybe?. Gonna make myself comfortable for this one.


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View PostUAdan, on 23 February 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

10, 11 pages maybe?. Gonna make myself comfortable for this one.
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Clowney hasn't done the bench press yet, has he?  I thought I read somewhere he got 21 reps, but I didn't think the DL went until tomorrow...
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View Postchunkybeefstu, on 23 February 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:

Clowney hasn't done the bench press yet, has he?  I thought I read somewhere he got 21 reps, but I didn't think the DL went until tomorrow...
Yeah, he did 21.
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View PostHFS, on 23 February 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

Yeah, he did 21.

Huh, guess I expected more from someone that is going to have the best combine....
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View Postchunkybeefstu, on 23 February 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

Huh, guess I expected more from someone that is going to have the best combine....

well, 21 reps with an 83" wingspan is pretty good

http://mweb.cbssport...est-at-weigh-in


Clowney won't dominate in this test the way he might in others. Frankly, considering his arm length, finishing middle-of-the-pack (among defensive ends) would be fine. Similarly built defenders like Julius Peppers (6-6, 283), Jason Pierre-Paul (6-5, 270) and Robert Quinn (6-4, 265) posted 24, 19 and 22 reps, respectively and obviously they've enjoyed plenty of success in the NFL.








Dee Ford probably doesn't understand such things though since she's been lifting with her little baby arms her entire life.

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View Postcocky4ever, on 23 February 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

well, 21 reps with an 83" wingspan is pretty good

http://mweb.cbssport...est-at-weigh-in


Clowney won't dominate in this test the way he might in others. Frankly, considering his arm length, finishing middle-of-the-pack (among defensive ends) would be fine. Similarly built defenders like Julius Peppers (6-6, 283), Jason Pierre-Paul (6-5, 270) and Robert Quinn (6-4, 265) posted 24, 19 and 22 reps, respectively and obviously they've enjoyed plenty of success in the NFL.








Dee Ford probably doesn't understand such things though since she's been lifting with her little baby arms her entire life.

Wasn't trying to say it was bad, just like I said, I expected more...  The dude is still a top 5 pick and should be pretty good.
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View Postchunkybeefstu, on 23 February 2014 - 08:51 PM, said:

Wasn't trying to say it was bad, just like I said, I expected more...  The dude is still a top 5 pick and should be pretty good.

Agreed. If he works hard and lives up to his potential he might almost be as good as Dee Ford.

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I think he has a legitimate argument against Clowney. They both have 16 sacks over the last two years.

He went too far, though.
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