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View PostHFS, on 03 February 2014 - 06:51 AM, said:

Since his junior year at UT he's won an SEC championship, 5 MVPs, 10 division titles, 11 playoff games, 3 AFC titles and a Super Bowl.

Joe Montana lost a playoff game 49-3 in his prime, when you're playing a great team this can happen.

Peyton is definitely a great QB; but I couldn't help but notice you only listed wins, which, of course, only tells part of the story... here's the rest of it:

In the SEC he won 1 SEC title, and lost to UF all 4 years. He said the only reason he came back for his senior season was to beat UF, and Wuerffel had graduated, so he thought he had a pretty good shot at the elusive win... he lost to the new guy, too, Doug Johnson.

Yes, he's won 11 playoff games... and lost 12.

Yes, he's won a Super Bowl... and lost 2.

Again, he's a great QB, but he also benefits from an NFL that emphasizes passing more than any time in history...there are probably a dozen better QB's that would have inflated passing numbers as well as multiple awards and records had they played in this era.

I thought it was kind of ironic that he again lost to a (former) UF defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn. :trollface:
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Denver could have kept Tebow and used the money on defense.

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View Postpossumslayer, on 03 February 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Denver could have kept Tebow and used the money on defense.

Denver obviously subscribes to the Big 12 method of team-building.
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View PostGatorUnvrsty, on 03 February 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:



Peyton is definitely a great QB; but I couldn't help but notice you only listed wins, which, of course, only tells part of the story... here's the rest of it:

In the SEC he won 1 SEC title, and lost to UF all 4 years. He said the only reason he came back for his senior season was to beat UF, and Wuerffel had graduated, so he thought he had a pretty good shot at the elusive win... he lost to the new guy, too, Doug Johnson.

Yes, he's won 11 playoff games... and lost 12.

Yes, he's won a Super Bowl... and lost 2.

Again, he's a great QB, but he also benefits from an NFL that emphasizes passing more than any time in history...there are probably a dozen better QB's that would have inflated passing numbers as well as multiple awards and records had they played in this era.

I thought it was kind of ironic that he again lost to a (former) UF defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn. :trollface:

UF fans can suck it until they produce a QB that can stay on an NFL roster :trollface:
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View Postzartan, on 03 February 2014 - 04:34 PM, said:

UF fans can suck it until they produce a QB that can stay on an NFL roster :trollface:

I don't speak for all Gator fans; but I really couldn't care less about an NFL roster, as long as they bring home some hardware to UF''s trophy-case.

It's nice when former players show up big at the next level, like Harvin did last night, and I'm happy for them; but all the MVP and NFL records in the world still does very little for the program I'm loyal to... other than bring a little additional publicity.

I remember back in the '70's and '80's they used to make a big deal out of where players went to college; they'd do the pre-game rosters with that included and when they showed the offensive and defensive players involved in the last play, their college was beside their name.

The NFL doesn't even usually bother doing any of that anymore, almost like they're in competition with college football for viewers (which I guess they are to a certain extent) and don't want to advertise for them.
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View PostGatorUnvrsty, on 03 February 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:



I don't speak for all Gator fans; but I really couldn't care less about an NFL roster, as long as they bring home some hardware to UF''s trophy-case.

It's nice when former players show up big at the next level, like Harvin did last night, and I'm happy for them; but all the MVP and NFL records in the world still does very little for the program I'm loyal to... other than bring a little additional publicity.

I remember back in the '70's and '80's they used to make a big deal out of where players went to college; they'd do the pre-game rosters with that included and when they showed the offensive and defensive players involved in the last play, their college was beside their name.

The NFL doesn't even usually bother doing any of that anymore, almost like they're in competition with college football for viewers (which I guess they are to a certain extent) and don't want to advertise for them.
they quit doing it because...school of hard nocks..
The hood and insert elementary school name here..

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View Postpossumslayer, on 03 February 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Denver could have kept Tebow and used the money on defense.
yeah....right!  Wilson had the benefit of playing against a defense weaker than his own.  not having von miller or ryan clady was a huge blow to the team.  switch the qbs or the defenses and the game is a shutout!
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View PostMrGamecockFan, on 04 February 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:


yeah....right!  Wilson had the benefit of playing against a defense weaker than his own.  not having von miller or ryan clady was a huge blow to the team.  switch the qbs or the defenses and the game is a shutout!
it was a shutout....

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the Broncos don't sniff the playoffs without him. I'll say that much.

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View PostA10Rebel, on 04 February 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

the Broncos don't sniff the playoffs without him. I'll say that much.

They did beat the pats as well as two teams in our division that also made the playoffs! Von miller was definitely missed!

Edited by MrGamecockFan, 04 February 2014 - 12:20 PM.

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View Postpossumslayer, on 04 February 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

it was a shutout....

Last I checked 8 doesn't equal 0!
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View PostMrGamecockFan, on 04 February 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:



Last I checked 8 doesn't equal 0!
it was a blow out

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View Postpossumslayer, on 04 February 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:

it was a blow out

Blowout does not equal shutout!
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