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Anyone here interested in philosophy, interested in discussing anything in particular?

You know, the bigger questions that vex human existence, not the mundane details that we all seem to get mired in.
I studied a decent bit of philosophy in college, but that was 8 years ago, and I'm just now getting back into refreshing myself on everything from Socrates to John Stuart Mill, and hopefully as much in between as possible.

Any takers? If so, what particular areas interest you the most?

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@ForwardRebels


This is the sort of douchey thing you would like.

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View PostJoeGator, on 22 January 2014 - 08:05 AM, said:

@ForwardRebels


This is the sort of douchey thing you would like.

Ouch.

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View PostA. Pilgrim, on 22 January 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Ouch.

Ha, he might agree with you too much.

I can't remember, but I think @1dawgfan09 might be into this too.

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Why do I get likes from people I disgust?

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View Postpossumslayer, on 22 January 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

Why do I get likes from people I disgust?

Each of us has a dark side I reckon.

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Nietzsche maybe?
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View PostSheLuvsBama, on 22 January 2014 - 09:19 AM, said:

Nietzsche maybe?
big word

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View Postpossumslayer, on 22 January 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

big word


Word
Du-te la dracu 'LSU

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View Postpossumslayer, on 22 January 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

big word

:lol:  Sometimes they get even bigger!
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View PostSheLuvsBama, on 22 January 2014 - 09:24 AM, said:



:lol:  Sometimes they get even bigger!
oh no

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View Postpossumslayer, on 22 January 2014 - 09:25 AM, said:

oh no

I am a woman in love with words.
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Yeah, I'll be contributing to this thread tonight. Too much to get into while I'm at work.

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OK, I'll start it off with what I was pondering last night...if this makes me douchey, then so be it. hah.

So, Thomas Aquinas sought to 'christianize' Aristotle by reasoning out that Aristotle's philosophy was not independent from Christianity.
This goes into the idea of whether faith and reason, or more specifically, religion and science, are mutually exclusive. Now, many reasonably intelligent people know that they are not, but there is a surprisingly large bloc of the population that believes they are, and they are not in just one camp or another, meaning it isn't just religious zealots, nor is it just scientific humanists, who seem to insist they are mutually exclusive.

I know I'm kind of rambling now, so excuse me for that. Hopefully some of what I'm trying to get across from this point forward makes sense to someone, who can chime in and offer their own perspective / criticism / whatever...

So, going off that idea of reason 'vs' faith...
Christianity has its roots in Judaism, which is essentially a Semitic philosophy.
Semites traditionally focus on the sense of hearing. It was probably the most important sense, as evidence in scripture from the Old Testament and other text.
Elsewhere, specifically the Greek, focused primarily on the sense of seeing. It was their sense of sight that drove much of the classic philosophy and Hellinism.

Anyways, that being said...the Old Testament was entirely semitic, whereas the New Testament was first written in greek. There, we can see the teachings of Jesus being a combination of Semitic and Hellenistic philosophy. The influences of both are pervasive in the New Testament.

So where the Greeks focused primarily on reason, the Semites focused on faith.

But, like I mentioned- the two are not mutually exclusive, which is what Thomas Aquinas sought to reconcile. So, hopefully my rambling might make at least a little bit of sense here...

The way I was thinking about it last night was like witnessing thunder / lightening. If you have both the sense of sight and hearing, then you can reconcile the sound of thunder being synonymous with the phenomena of lightening. But if you were born blind, and could only hear- then hearing thunder you might deduce certain conclusions from the sound that might not be complete if you knew nothing else of lightening (say, from being educated outside of your own senses). Likewise, if you were born deaf, and could only see lightening without hearing thunder, then you would likely form conclusions that were not complete.

For example, since light travels faster than sound, we often experience the delay in seeing lightening and hearing thunder (unless the lightening is striking a tree in your front yard, which would cause the two to be synced up nicely).

My point is, using only one of the senses, or some of the senses, brings us to incomplete conclusions.
This isn't different from those who insist that faith alone can provide us with the answers to life's biggest questions, or those who insist reason alone can accomplish this. And, yes- there are many on both sides of the reason / faith argument. How many atheist scientists insist on the irrelevance of faith? How many Christian churches have you walked into where the congregants refuse to reason out the natural world and how that reasoning coincides with one's faith? Both of these scenarios happen all the time!

Anyways, I've probably done a very poor job of laying out what was going through my head last night. If so, I apologize for wasting your time, if you made it this far (otherwise- 'TL;DR', amirite?)

So, in summation; thunder and lightening, and our perception of both, could go a long way in helping us understand the importance of using all of our senses when attempting to tackle some of life's biggest questions.

/end douchey post

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