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Reports: Vandy to hire Derek Mason (DC @ Stanford)

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View PostHoganknows, on 18 January 2014 - 06:32 AM, said:



Yep, along with everybody else in Nashville or is a Vandy fan...read this just a short note from story about Coach Poach in the Nashville Tennessean:

As for Franklin, his change in venue requires a change in message. When he was at Vanderbilt, his recruiting approach was built around four key factors:

• Get a world-class education.

• Live in a great city.

• Make history instead of building on the history made by others.

• Play in the nation’s best conference.

Now that he’s at Penn State, Franklin’s message must be rewritten, to wit:

• Get a great education (Penn State ranks No. 37 nationally by U.S. News and World Report compared to Vanderbilt’s No. 17).

• Live in a cool college town in the middle of nowhere.

• Help return the program to its previous stature.

• Play in the nation’s fourth- or fifth-best conference.

Good luck with that, Coach Poach.


I was talking about you hating Mason in 3 years when he leaves....

But as far as all that about Franlikn is concerned...so what? If you lose any recruits now that he's gone it means they were more interested in playing for Franklin than playing at Vandy. And a coach is supposed to sell a school based on its strengths. There are positives about playing at penn state so I'm sure he'll sell them on those. We're talking about a guy who brought in good classes at Vandy.

Plus, this shouldn't surprise anyone. We're talking about a guy who, when he thought he wouldn't get recruits, tried to steer them away from other SEC schools. They actually cheered just as loud when they kept a guy from signing at UT as they did when they landed good players themselves. Isn't it obvious he would want to coach at a school where he'll see less competition?
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What a conundrum for Vandy fans. If they hire a guy that can get them winning they have an over under of 2.5 years before thy move up to a better situation. If the guy bombs out well Jimmie got them a taste of winning so now they want to win. It must really suck to be a Vandy fan.

The bigger lose will be the reason Vandy was able to steal a few wins the last 2 seasons. No J Matthews and UT/UF/UGA not sucking enough for Vandy to beat them.

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that's not exactly true anymore smoky. coaches are learning that you can be fired anywhere. of course I do believe franklin had some pressure telling him to leave and it wasn't from the university. I won't go into that here. there is a statement that keeps getting made by the media about him and a few other coaches on a regular basis that bothers me.
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View PostSECats, on 18 January 2014 - 02:56 AM, said:

If he turns out to be everything I want him to be Vandy will need to replace him.

:)

Hahahaha! I can see that might be a good reason.
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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

What a conundrum for Vandy fans. If they hire a guy that can get them winning they have an over under of 2.5 years before thy move up to a better situation. If the guy bombs out well Jimmie got them a taste of winning so now they want to win. It must really suck to be a Vandy fan.

The bigger lose will be the reason Vandy was able to steal a few wins the last 2 seasons. No J Matthews and UT/UF/UGA not sucking enough for Vandy to beat them.

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View PostHoganknows, on 18 January 2014 - 06:32 AM, said:



Yep, along with everybody else in Nashville or is a Vandy fan...read this just a short note from story about Coach Poach in the Nashville Tennessean:

As for Franklin, his change in venue requires a change in message. When he was at Vanderbilt, his recruiting approach was built around four key factors:

• Get a world-class education.

• Live in a great city.

• Make history instead of building on the history made by others.

• Play in the nation’s best conference.

Now that he’s at Penn State, Franklin’s message must be rewritten, to wit:

• Get a great education (Penn State ranks No. 37 nationally by U.S. News and World Report compared to Vanderbilt’s No. 17).

• Live in a cool college town in the middle of nowhere.

• Help return the program to its previous stature.

• Play in the nation’s fourth- or fifth-best conference.

Good luck with that, Coach Poach.

. Live on one of the NCAA's top 25 most dangerous campuses.....

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View Postbbqit, on 18 January 2014 - 07:42 AM, said:

that's not exactly true anymore smoky. coaches are learning that you can be fired anywhere. of course I do believe franklin had some pressure telling him to leave and it wasn't from the university. I won't go into that here. there is a statement that keeps getting made by the media about him and a few other coaches on a regular basis that bothers me.

No doubt Franklin wanted out of Vandy in the worst way and had his agent pimp him to every open job but that doesn't change the fact Vandy is a stepping stone resume builder in the world of college coaching. A resume bullet for a guy that can say "I won at an SEC school that doesn't care about SEC football. Vandy wants to be a BCS coaching farm or minor league farm system than this is the way to do it. Go out and hire high reward low risk guys looking for their first head coaching gig. Looking at the guys Vandy pursued that's what it looks like they were doing. No established names, no big splash just young eager competent guys looking for their first chance.

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View Postcocky4ever, on 18 January 2014 - 06:41 AM, said:



I was talking about you hating Mason in 3 years when he leaves....

But as far as all that about Franlikn is concerned...so what? If you lose any recruits now that he's gone it means they were more interested in playing for Franklin than playing at Vandy. And a coach is supposed to sell a school based on its strengths. There are positives about playing at penn state so I'm sure he'll sell them on those. We're talking about a guy who brought in good classes at Vandy.

Plus, this shouldn't surprise anyone. We're talking about a guy who, when he thought he wouldn't get recruits, tried to steer them away from other SEC schools. They actually cheered just as loud when they kept a guy from signing at UT as they did when they landed good players themselves. Isn't it obvious he would want to coach at a school where he'll see less competition?

The irony is that he steered that kid to .... His new rival Ohio State.

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Lol at this quote about dream jobs from Mason at the presser.

Coach Shaw has his (Stanford) and I have mine and that is between my wife and I.  And it's a ways away.

Well at least he didn't lie

Edited by Matt, 18 January 2014 - 04:22 PM.


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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

What a conundrum for Vandy fans. If they hire a guy that can get them winning they have an over under of 2.5 years before thy move up to a better situation. If the guy bombs out well Jimmie got them a taste of winning so now they want to win. It must really suck to be a Vandy fan.

The bigger lose will be the reason Vandy was able to steal a few wins the last 2 seasons. No J Matthews and UT/UF/UGA not sucking enough for Vandy to beat them.

Jimmy was winning with Bobby Johnson's players.....we play now with Jimmy's All Star recruits:)  Suppose to be an extreme upgrade....and by the way...Mason is an upgrade from Coach Poach!!
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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

No doubt Franklin wanted out of Vandy in the worst way and had his agent pimp him to every open job but that doesn't change the fact Vandy is a stepping stone resume builder in the world of college coaching. A resume bullet for a guy that can say "I won at an SEC school that doesn't care about SEC football. Vandy wants to be a BCS coaching farm or minor league farm system than this is the way to do it. Go out and hire high reward low risk guys looking for their first head coaching gig. Looking at the guys Vandy pursued that's what it looks like they were doing. No established names, no big splash just young eager competent guys looking for their first chance.

He did and he did it all the wrong way and screwed his own career....now he will fall flat on his face....guys like him always do!!!.....Remember Lane Kiffin......same mold!!!
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Lmao Hogan, coaches leave schools, and Vandy will never be able to keep a successful coach for a long time.
Get over it, Derek Mason will leave in a few years if he is successful too.

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View Postadfalcon, on 18 January 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

Lmao Hogan, coaches leave schools, and Vandy will never be able to keep a successful coach for a long time.
Get over it, Derek Mason will leave in a few years if he is successful too.

Oh so Ole Miss is the destination point for most all coaches....CDM is no Jimmy

Payback will be nice in Nashville in 2014...welcome back ....3 trips to Nashville:)

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View PostHoganknows, on 18 January 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

Oh so Ole Miss is the destination point for most all coaches....CDM is no Jimmy

Payback will be nice in Nashville in 2014...welcome back ....3 trips to Nashville:)
Payback as in we will kick your ass in preparation for the Bama game that is coming up after that? Yep.

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View Postadfalcon, on 18 January 2014 - 04:33 PM, said:

Payback as in we will kick your ass in preparation for the Bama game that is coming up after that? Yep.

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