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Kevin Sumlin: Will He Survive After Manziel?

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Kevin Sumlin made a big splash at Texas A & M and in the SEC because of QB Johnny Manziel's ability to run the high-powered offense that Sumlin had pioneered at the University of Houston.  Sumlin had worked under such prestigious coaches as R. C. Slocum, Bob Stoops, Mike Price, and Dennis Erickson, and became somewhat of an offensive guru as an offensive coordinator.  He made his bones at Houston before coming to A & M.  Having Johnny Football show up was an opportune situation for the high-powered offensive mind-set of Sumlin.  Now, the question is, can Kevin Sumlin maintain his type of Houston offense in the rugged confines of the SEC where defenses are far tougher than he has ever encountered before, not to mention the talent of both players and coaches in the SEC.  He still has Manziel, at least for the coming season, and even that may not be enough for the task ahead in 2013.  Now, the question becomes, will Sumlin be able to maintain a presentable presence once Manziel departs or will A & M fall into the also-rans of the harsh SEC West and the SEC itself?  Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, and Miss State have shown their ability to withstand, as have Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and even Vanderbilt and Kentucky.  Mizzou may dump Gary Pinkel and become relevant, too.  Can Sumlin survive after Manziel?

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Sumlin will do just fine.  He has already recruited very well before the 2012 even started.  He did even better after.  He is a great head coach and I hope he sticks around for a long time.

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If Texas keeps Brown as coach I believe his recruiting will be good enough to field good teams and keep the fans happy.Offense sells tickets.


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Sumlin will thrive.


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He's smart enough to adapt his offense to whatever QB he has under center, he'll be fine at A&M.

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If he adapts, he certainly will do well with Texas talent. However, sometimes it's not the best idea to have a hurry up, spread offense year after year. Opposing coaches will figure him out, so it's best to change it up every now in then to keep everyone on their toes. Don't have to change much, just some variables.

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Kevin Sumlin was a great coach long before Manziel was a good QB. This topic is preposterous.

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View PostHobnailedBoots, on 04 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Kevin Sumlin was a great coach long before Manziel was a good QB. This topic is preposterous.
Just look to the OP and there's your answer as to why.
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View PostKneesInTheBreeze, on 04 August 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Miss State have shown their ability to withstand and even Vanderbilt and Kentucky.  

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View PostHobnailedBoots, on 04 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Kevin Sumlin was a great coach long before Manziel was a good QB. This topic is preposterous.

View Postjacobp, on 04 August 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

Just look to the OP and there's your answer as to why.

Casting aspersions on me is what I expect from these two obnoxious assholes, but the point is that the success of Sumlin's offense in Houston does not translate to success in  the SEC.  Manziel was the key.  Without him, Sumlin may, as someone said, need to come up with some workable variations.  While I like Sumlin and hope he is successful in the years to come, I am not yet convinced that his system will work long term in the SEC.

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KneesInTheBreeze, on 04 August 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

the success of Sumlin's offense in Houston does not translate to success in  the SEC.  Manziel was the key.

How retarded are you? Are you of the belief that Case Keenum was just a generational prodigy at QB? This is the same bullshit that people said about Tebow. Urban Meyer made Tim Tebow. And he made Alex Smith before that. Just like Kevin Sumlin has made Manziel a heisman winner and made Keenum a prolofic passer before that. . Manziel did not make Sumlin a great coach.

For someone who claims to be a Florida fan, you sure missed the irony in your position.

Edited by HobnailedBoots, 04 August 2013 - 04:57 PM.


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At this point, I am almost positive that Knees must write for Bleacher Report.

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View Postmsubulldogfan1, on 30 August 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

bear$ are legit.

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View Postcocky4ever, on 04 August 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

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We have been to three straight bowl games and won 2/3 of the bowls we've played in under Mullen. Two of those seasons have also seen us win more than seven games. We've also climbed into the top 25 in recruiting most years..........Just saying.
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View PostHobnailedBoots, on 04 August 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

How retarded are you? Are you of the belief that Case Keenum was just a generational prodigy at QB? This is the same bullshit that people said about Tebow. Urban Meyer made Tim Tebow. And he made Alex Smith before that. Just like Kevin Sumlin has made Manziel a heisman winner and made Keenum a prolofic passer before that. . Manziel did not make Sumlin a great coach.

For someone who claims to be a Florida fan, you sure missed the irony in your position.

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I said the same thing about Meyer...then later about Petrino. Don't think I'll say that again for a while because while the SEC obviously fields great defenses, it's not like people can't come in and consistently put up good offensive numbers.