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I doubt Cooper left the team because of the media.   His teammates are frickin' pissed.  LeSean McCoy said he lost a friend in this because he can't respect someone who would do that.   He is not alone.  That's not a conducive environment for them to work right now.   Let him take a break....see if folks can settle down in a couple weeks...and if so he'll be back.   For now, he's not a good enough player to be worth the tension and distraction.

FWIW,  Cooper is the one who played the race card.   OP doesn't care about what he said and that's perfectly fine.  But this is one where  it's also reasonable to be pissed.   Whether or not a black player could get away with making derogatory statements is a separate issue.   It's an annoying double standard but in no way changes that what Cooper said was completely wrong.   That wasn't joking with your boys.  That was said with anger.

Funny thing about the Vick hate in this thread is he's the only one who's come out publicly to support Cooper and offer his support going forward.

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View Postcocky4ever, on 02 August 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

holy shit.....if you don't know that there's a difference between the word "nigga" and "nigger" then we probably won't get far with this conversation

If you cant grasp the idea that its just a word  then you wont get far in life.
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View Postcocky4ever, on 02 August 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

I'm not saying how offending it is or isn't....i'm just saying that the two statements I presented are completely different. And I was saying it was probably better for the team if Riley isn't on it. That's not to say I give a fukk what Cooper says, and I actually think people these days are way too sensitive. I was just talking about it strictly from a locker room/ distraction point of view. It probably is better for the team if he is gone.

You really think they guys on the team are as sensitive as a 12 year old girl.

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View PostAUskip07, on 02 August 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

If you cant grasp the idea that its just a word  then you wont get far in life.

Nigga and nigger are almost always said in completely different contexts and used with completely different connotations. "One little 'r'" actually does make a shitload of a difference. They aren't even close to the same word.

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View PostWadeWilson, on 02 August 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Nigga and nigger are almost always said in completely different contexts and used with completely different connotations. "One little 'r'" actually does make a shitload of a difference. They aren't even close to the same word.

keep messing with him and he'll come back and fight every nigger here
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I don't think it's any worse than saying asshole or guido or mexican (when they are puerto rican) or chinese (when they are vaguely asian).

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View PostJoeGator, on 02 August 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

I don't think it's any worse than saying asshole or guido or mexican (when they are puerto rican) or chinese (when they are vaguely asian).

Where do you stand on Chinamen?

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View Posteastcoastrazorback, on 02 August 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Where do you stand on Chinamen?

I'm a huge fan of racial slurs in general.
So I probably shouldn't be posting in this thread.
Oh well.

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View PostJoeGator, on 02 August 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

I'm a huge fan of racial slurs in general.
So I probably shouldn't be posting in this thread.
Oh well.

This cracks me up.

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I can't tell you how many times I've heard white people, hispanic people and asian people say nigga and say it around black people. I've said it around some of my black friends and how many of them cared? Not one, granted we were saying it in a joking manner and nothing was serious. But now, if I was saying nigger in a hostile manner, I can tell you I wouldn't be alive with some of the dudes I went to school with.

I'm not black, I'll never know what it means to be called a nigger, but I think most of the people would agree that there is a huge difference in er and a.
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View PostWadeWilson, on 02 August 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Nigga and nigger are almost always said in completely different contexts and used with completely different connotations. "One little 'r'" actually does make a shitload of a difference. They aren't even close to the same word.


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View PostShaunMac, on 02 August 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

I can't tell you how many times I've heard white people, hispanic people and asian people say nigga and say it around black people. I've said it around some of my black friends and how many of them cared? Not one, granted we were saying it in a joking manner and nothing was serious. But now, if I was saying nigger in a hostile manner, I can tell you I wouldn't be alive with some of the dudes I went to school with.

I'm not black, I'll never know what it means to be called a nigger, but I think most of the people would agree that there is a huge difference in er and a.

Agreed. I've said nigga around black people and they didn't give a damn...but if I had said




they probably would've taken it a little differently. That's why I think it's pretty naive to say having an "r" on the end makes no difference...or that context doesn't matter.

Of course, being a white guy with a ponytail in a flannel shirt with cutoff sleeves probably doesn't help.
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View PostAUskip07, on 02 August 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:



You seem to be overlooking the fact that, while both are "just words" they are always said with the same connotation, which is what I said previously.

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I dropped the word "nigga" once in high school around 3 black guys. It's was just us 4 and I was pretty good friends with them. We were def all cool. Two laughed and one got mad. I guess it just depends on the individual. It's all about context

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View PostWadeWilson, on 02 August 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

You seem to be overlooking the fact that, while both are "just words" they are always said with the same connotation, which is what I said previously.

I understand what you are saying but it does not change the fact that im right.   You are defining peoples interpretation im defining what it is.
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