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Obama's gun agenda. OR - "Welcome to your new police state."

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View PostOlArmy98, on 18 January 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:


The crime committed in that case was by the federal government

That whole Waco thing really ruined a lot of you Southern boys' militia fantasies, didn't it?

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View Postzartan, on 18 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

That whole Waco thing really ruined a lot of you Southern boys' militia fantasies, didn't it?

What militia fantasy?  "That whole Waco thing" is better described as a complete fiasco.

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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:



I am not accountable for the acts of spainish conquest.

This is true. But the point is you're perfectly fine with people imposing their will, as long as you agree with it.
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View Postzartan, on 18 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

That whole Waco thing really ruined a lot of you Southern boys' militia fantasies, didn't it?

No. It was a religious cult. A militia is not even close to the same thing. Try Google to atleast attempt to keep this stuff straight.
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View PostNextYearIsHere, on 18 January 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

This is true. But the point is you're perfectly fine with people imposing their will, as long as you agree with it.

No Im not.
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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:



No. It was a religious cult. A militia is not even close to the same thing. Try Google to atleast attempt to keep this stuff straight.

I didn't say Waco was a militia. I said watching Waco ruins your fantasies of rising up against the government...a distinctly Southern characteristic
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View Postzartan, on 18 January 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

I didn't say Waco was a militia. I said watching Waco ruins your fantasies of rising up against the government...a distinctly Southern characteristic

Why would WACO have any effect on anything outside re enforcing a distrust of cults? No one came out armed in support of WACO.

DO you even try to understand this stuff or do you just make it up?
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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:


Why would WACO have any effect on anything outside re enforcing a distrust of cults? No one came out armed in support of WACO.

DO you even try to understand this stuff or do you just make it up?

A lot of people thought the government was heavy-handed/outright criminal in its handling of the Waco affair. Just because it isn't a hot-button issue for you doesn't matter. Maybe Ruby Ridge is more meaningful to you personally.

The message is the same: opposing the government in armed conflict isn't going to work out for you
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View PostNextYearIsHere, on 18 January 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

This is true. But the point is you're perfectly fine with people imposing their will, as long as you agree with it.

No I am not. I am in favor of the rule of law. Enforcing it and all that. I am in favor of defending my rights and all that. Do not over step either and I am more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
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View Postsmokeyone, on 18 January 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Why would WACO have any effect on anything outside re enforcing a distrust of cults? No one came out armed in support of WACO.

DO you even try to understand this stuff or do you just make it up?

When in doubt, make shit up!  That's what ignorant POSs do...

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View Postzartan, on 18 January 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

A lot of people thought the government was heavy-handed/outright criminal in its handling of the Waco affair. Just because it isn't a hot-button issue for you doesn't matter. Maybe Ruby Ridge is more meaningful to you personally.

The message is the same: opposing the government in armed conflict isn't going to work out for you

They were heavy handed and its a shame David took all those folks with him. That isnt opposed to my statement that he was delusional and needed to die.
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What can I tell you, smokey? Maybe it's a Northern/Southern thing. Maybe I'm naive. The thought or necessity of having guns to protect me from the government has never entered my mind
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Apparently Crazy Uncle Joe has been quoted as saying "We don't have time to prosecute everyone who lies on their 4473/background check."

No time to enforce the current laws, so we need a big pile of new laws to enforce.  Makes sense to me!

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