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[CrimsoNation713]

Georgiaboy2012, on 15 January 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Where ever they schedule his mma fights at

Where does he fight at ? He fought twice in three years ?

http://www.sherdog.c...el-Walker-53594

[Georgiaboy2012]

CrimsoNation713, on 15 January 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Where does he fight at ? He fought twice in three years ?

http://www.sherdog.c...el-Walker-53594

The dudes like 50. Even one mma fight in the last three years would be pretty nice for his age and the guy looks like he's got muscles on top of muscles on top if muscles

[HobnailedBoots]

CrimsoNation713, on 15 January 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Where does he fight at ? He fought twice in three years ?

http://www.sherdog.c...el-Walker-53594

So what?

[CrimsoNation713]

HobnailedBoots, on 15 January 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

So what?

Couple of folks making a big deal that he WAS  an MMA fighter. Two fights is all I'm saying.

[CrimsoNation713]

Georgiaboy2012, on 15 January 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

The dudes like 50. Even one mma fight in the last three years would be pretty nice for his age and the guy looks like he's got muscles on top of muscles on top if muscles

Your point ?

[MrGamecockFan]

Hothotz, on 15 January 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

Meh, He was a great back, but he was made of glass. He will never make it in the pro's. If I was him I wouldn't even try, he is going to get his legs and knees destroyed for no reason. Stay healthy and get a job coaching some high school team. Any school in South Carolina would higher him.

wow, youre intellect is absolutely astounding.  i wouldnt say that a back who took two bad shots to the knee, which were his only two injuries, was made of glass.  hell, the way georgia defenders seemed to bounce off of him, id say hes made of rubber...

CrimsoNation713, on 15 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

and if a frog had a .38 they wouldn't have to worry about snakes

since people were talking about what might have been, i thought id chime in as well...

[ECDawg]

HobnailedBoots, on 12 January 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

@AUskip07

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However, anytime that I mention Herschel being the greatest SEC (and college, imo) RB of all time, there is always an Aubie ready to chime in with "Ummmm, did you forget about Bo?" My typical response is "No" and here is why.
1. Freshman impact.
No contest here. Herschel set the freshman rushing record at 1,616 yards - and he did that in the equivalent of 9 games (he missed the bulk of the Ole Miss game, and a half against both UT and TCU). Bo? 829 yards. Ho hum. Or let me put it this way: Bo rushed for fewer yards as a freshman than Jasper Sanks did as a sophomore. Herschel should have won the Heisman as a freshman. Bo? Bo wasn't diddly as a freshman.
Advantage: Herschel, and Bo doesn't really deserve to be mentioned in his company here.
2. Season rushing stats.
Let's take a look at their seasons in terms of yards gained per season and put them in order.
1. 1,891 yards. Herschel, 1981.
2. 1,786 yards. Bo, 1985.
3. 1,752 yards. Herschel, 1982.
4. 1,616 yards. Herschel, 1980.
5. 1,213 yards. Bo, 1983.
6. 829 yards. Bo, 1982.
7. 475 yards. Bo, 1984.
Auburn fans will quickly remind you that Bo's 1984 season was shortened by injury. I will remind Auburn fans that Herschel missed a game and a half his freshman year and a game his junior year based on injury. OK, so let's go ahead and play the "what if" game. What if Bo and Herschel hadn't missed any time due to injury? To let you know how I came up with these numbers, I did it like this. Herschel missed 1.5 games in 1980 due to injury. Take 1,616, divide by 9.5, multiply by 11 for the revised total. Here are the "no injuries" numbers:
1. 1,936 yards. Herschel, 1982.
2. 1,891 yards. Herschel, 1981.
3. 1,871 yards. Herschel, 1980.
4. 1,786 yards. Bo, 1985.
5. 1,213 yards. Bo, 1983.
6. 1,045 yards. Bo, 1984.
7. 829 yards. Bo, 1982.
Bo don't know Herschel's yards. Put another way, Herschel's 3 years are 3 of the top 5 rushing totals in SEC history. Bo's second best year doesn't even make the top 20.
Advantage: Herschel, and it's not close.
3. Career rushing stats.
Herschel: 5,259 yards in 3 years
Bo: 4,303 yards in 4 years.
Some Auburn fans will tell you that a healthy Bo Jackson would have outrushed Herschel over 4 years. Fine. Let's play that game, too. I'll even give Bo a 1984 equivalent to his best season, 1985. Don't forget, though, that Herschel had another full year to play when he left. Giving Herschel the equivalent of his worst year (1980, 1,616 yards), you get these numbers:
Herschel: 6,875 yards
Bo: 5,614 yards
Sorry, Aubies. Advantage: Herschel, and again, it's not even close.
4. Durability.
To make it through the always-brutal SEC schedule, a running back must have durability. The best home-run running back in the world doesn't do squat from the bench.
Per game: Herschel has two of the top 4 rush attempts in a game. Bo doesn't even make the list.
Per season: Herschel has the top 2 seasons. Bo's best season is at #15.
Career: Herschel had more rushes in 3 years than anyone in SEC history had in 4.
No contest here. Compared to Herschel, Bo was a china doll. Bo took himself out of games. Herschel put himself back in them. Advantage: Herschel, and Bo isn't in the same class.
5. Team impact.
Good players get good stats. Great players get great stats. Elite players lift the teams around them. Let's look at the team records and accomplishments.
National championships: In Herschel's 3 years, Georgia won a national championship and played for another. In Bo's 4, Auburn won none and played for none.
SEC championships: Georgia won 3 in Herschel's 3 years. Auburn won 1 in Bo’s 4.
Winning percentage:
Georgia: .917 (33-3), Auburn: .755 (37-12)
At home: Georgia: 1.000 (19-0), Auburn: .846 (22-4)
Away: Georgia: .909 (10-1), Auburn: .714 (10-4)
SEC: Georgia: 1.000 (18-0), Auburn: .708 (17-7)
Win streaks:
Home: Georgia: 19, Auburn: 10
SEC: Georgia: 18, Auburn: 9
AP final ranking:
Georgia: 1, 6, 4, Auburn: 14, 3, 14, unranked
Bowls:
Georgia: Sugar, Sugar, Sugar, Auburn: Tangerine, Sugar, Liberty, Cotton
Advantage: Herschel, and Bo is nowhere near.
6. Heisman balloting:
Herschel:
1980: 3rd (highest ever point total for a freshman)
1981: 2nd
1982: 1st (margin, 695 votes over John Elway)
Herschel beat out such names as John Elway, Eric Dickerson, Anthony Carter, and Dan Marino.
Bo:
1982: not on the ballot
1983: not on the ballot
1984: not on the ballot
1985: 1st (margin, 45 votes over Chuck Long, the closest vote ever)
Bo beat out such names as Chuck Long, Robbie Bosco, Vinny Testaverde, and Allan Pinckett.
Advantage: Herschel, and Bo doesn't approach him.
7. Other arguments.
Bo was a great baseball player. So was Nolan Ryan, but no one mistook him for a football player.
Bo had a better pro career. By what standards? Consider this:
Bo never had over 1,000 yards. Herschel did it for two different teams.
Bo never finished in the league's top 10 in any statistic in any season. Herschel was in the top 10 in rushing yards twice, rushing scores 5 times, receptions twice, yards from scrimmage 4 times, and rush/receiving TD's twice.
Bo never finished in the top 50 for any stat in his career. Herschel is in 5 categories. Herschel is the only player to have 10,000+ yards gained on offense and 5,000+ yards on kickoff returns. Herschel is one of only six players to exceed 60 TDs rushing and 20 TDs receiving.
Bo is only one of two players with two 90+ yard rushing TDs, but Herschel is the only player in NFL history to score a 90+ yard TD rushing, receiving, and kickoff return in the same season, and he did it in his 30's.
In conclusion:
The SEC has seen a lot of great players, and a lot of great running backs. None of them have been better in four years than Herschel Walker was in three, and that includes Bo Jackson. Bo had one great year. So did Charles Alexander from LSU, Kentucky's Mo Williams and Bama's Mark Ingram, who each exceeded 1,600 yards in a season. So did Florida's Emmitt Smith, Auburn's Rudi Johnson, and Georgia's Garrison Hearst, who all exceeded 1,500 yards in a season. No one, however, has had the sustained excellence that Herschel had throughout his career.
No one comes close. Not even Bo.

Nothing left after this listing of the facts...........outstanding post bro.........

[Georgiaboy2012]

CrimsoNation713, on 15 January 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Your point ?

My point is someone made the point that Bo still is a better athlete than Hershel

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[CrimsoNation713]

Georgiaboy2012, on 19 January 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

My point is someone made the point that Bo still is a better athlete than Hershel

Nobody said Bo was still a better athlete but if thats what makes you happy, have at it.

[GatorHater24]

CrimsoNation713, on 19 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Nobody said Bo was still a better athlete but if thats what makes you happy, have at it.

I believe it was who IS the better athlete, taking into account the entirety of one's life including the present (so long as both are still alive).

BTW, shame on you for defending an AU player, the hells wrong with you?

Edited by GatorHater24, 19 January 2013 - 04:11 PM.

[ptclaus98]

HobnailedBoots, on 13 January 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Maybe my ass. Even your comically biased ass can't deny he is the greatest college rb of all time.

I'd make the argument for Eric Dickerson.

[ptclaus98]

Oh, and also, LOL at Michael Phelps being an elite all around athlete. Call me when he does an IronMan or something.

[Titans4Vols]

Eric Berry would wreck both Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker. Just ask the last guy that was compared to Herschel, Knowshon Moreno.

[cocky4ever]

ptclaus98, on 19 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Oh, and also, LOL at Michael Phelps being an elite all around athlete. Call me when he does an IronMan or something.

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Being really good at what you do doesn't mean you're a great athlete. Just because there's a sh!t ton of different swimming events doesn't make Phelps a phenomenal athlete, just a great swimmer.

Being a great athlete means having a rare combination of size, speed, strength, explosiveness, quickness, and endurance. And that gives me an idea for a thread.