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[HobnailedBoots]

GatorUnvrsty, on 13 January 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

And Herschel = the greatest SEC (and maybe college) back of all time and nothing more.

Maybe my ass. Even your comically biased ass can't deny he is the greatest college rb of all time.

[Neil Caudle is Superman]

HobnailedBoots, on 11 January 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

Lol you guys just keep thinking that. Bo couldn't carry Herschel's jock and you know it.

Why would anyone want to carry Herchel's jock? Seems pretty nasty to me.

[GatorUnvrsty]

HobnailedBoots, on 13 January 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Maybe my ass. Even your comically biased ass can't deny he is the greatest college rb of all time.

I conceded as much earlier in the thread; at least the best I ever saw. That's kind of the point; you keep making all these declarations and claims about things you don't know the first thing about; and ridicule the "eyeball test" when it's the single-most important factor in determining and forming an opinion on the matter.

In fact, it may be the single-most important factor in formulating an opinion about any topic period... kind of why most of us wish folks who never walked in certain shoes or experienced certain situations would just keep their opinions to themselves until they do. They don't know shit yet; so they need to take the cotton out of their ears and put it in their mouths.

I'll give you a hypothetical: Would you buy a car sight unseen? Would you spend your hard-earned cash on a car you hadn't seen or driven; based solely on the opinion of somebody else who hadn't seen or driven it either? I don't know about you, but I'm not forking over 1000's of dollars just because JimmyJoeBob says he thinks the car (that he hasn't seen or driven) is the best in automotive history.

I've seen both guys play, live and in the moment. But I haven't seen the guys play before my time; so I can say he's the best I've seen and it's hard to imagine a better college back; but unlike you, I can't say with certainty that he's the best ever.

Edited by GatorUnvrsty, 13 January 2013 - 12:08 PM.

[CrimsoNation713]

GatorUnvrsty, on 13 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

I conceded as much earlier in the thread; at least the best I ever saw. That's kind of the point; you keep making all these declarations and claims about things you don't know the first thing about; and ridicule the "eyeball test" when it's the single-most important factor in determining and forming an opinion on the matter.

In fact, it may be the single-most important factor in formulating an opinion about any topic period... kind of why most of us wish folks who never walked in certain shoes or experienced certain situations would just keep their opinions to themselves until they do. They don't know shit yet; so they need to take the cotton out of their ears and put it in their mouths.

I'll give you a hypothetical: Would you buy a car sight unseen? Would you spend your hard-earned cash on a car you hadn't seen or driven; based solely on the opinion of somebody else who hadn't seen or driven it either? I don't know about you, but I'm not forking over 1000's of dollars just because JimmyJoeBob says he thinks the car (that he hasn't seen or driven) is the best in automotive history.

I've seen both guys play, live and in the moment. But I haven't seen the guys play before my time; so I can say he's the best I've seen and it's hard to imagine a better college back; but unlike you, I can't say with certainty that he's the best ever.

Nobody seeing them play in person should even comment. What do we know ?

[HobnailedBoots]

GatorUnvrsty, on 13 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

I conceded as much earlier in the thread; at least the best I ever saw. That's kind of the point; you keep making all these declarations and claims about things you don't know the first thing about; and ridicule the "eyeball test" when it's the single-most important factor in determining and forming an opinion on the matter.

In fact, it may be the single-most important factor in formulating an opinion about any topic period... kind of why most of us wish folks who never walked in certain shoes or experienced certain situations would just keep their opinions to themselves until they do. They don't know shit yet; so they need to take the cotton out of their ears and put it in their mouths.

I'll give you a hypothetical: Would you buy a car sight unseen? Would you spend your hard-earned cash on a car you hadn't seen or driven; based solely on the opinion of somebody else who hadn't seen or driven it either? I don't know about you, but I'm not forking over 1000's of dollars just because JimmyJoeBob says he thinks the car (that he hasn't seen or driven) is the best in automotive history.

I've seen both guys play, live and in the moment. But I haven't seen the guys play before my time; so I can say he's the best I've seen and it's hard to imagine a better college back; but unlike you, I can't say with certainty that he's the best ever.

I never saw the civil war either. Nor did you. Guess we should refrain from speaking about .



Seriously, what a dumb ass comment. Even for you.

[TheRealBrave]

jthomas666, on 13 January 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

Dallas got a lot better after Walker left.


End of discussion.

Well damn, the Vikings might as well given Dallas their wives and children as slaves considering all they gave up for Walker.

[the Paradox]

I have seen Walker and Bo play in person. Tough call but the better running back was Walker. Bo was/is the better athlete.

RTR

[CrimsoNation713]

HobnailedBoots, on 13 January 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

I never saw the civil war either. Nor did you. Guess we should refrain from speaking about .



Seriously, what a dumb ass comment. Even for you.

So I guess they should start getting someone who read about a crime or saw it on TV rather than someone that actually witnessed it ?

[bmccall]

TheRealBrave, on 13 January 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Oh come off it, what do you think that implies when you say someone is showing their inner D3

There's nothing to come off of. D has many endearing qualities, unrivaled homerism is only one. I was actually specifically talking about using common sense when it helps your argument and then throwing common sense out the window when it doesn't.

In the D3 manual, that's towards the end of Chapter 2 titled "Maybe if No One Quotes This, I Can Pretend I Never Posted It"

Edited by bmccall, 13 January 2013 - 07:43 PM.

[GatorUnvrsty]

HobnailedBoots, on 13 January 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

I never saw the civil war either. Nor did you. Guess we should refrain from speaking about .



Seriously, what a dumb ass comment. Even for you.

Seriously? What a dumbass comment? Thanks, same ol' D3.

Anyway, of course you can comment on it, but if ing Robert E. Lee was sitting here debating you about it, whose opinion do you think folks are going to respect more?

Out on a limb here, but I'm guessing most people are going to go with the ing eye-witness who actually SAW shit.

And, of course, you'd still be here telling him he's full of shit, calling him a moron and a dumbass, and ridiculing him for using the "eyeball test".

How you can refer to anyone else as a dumbass with a straight face is still SECTalk's greatest mystery.

Edited by GatorUnvrsty, 13 January 2013 - 08:27 PM.

[AUskip07]

The bottom line that separates the SEC’s two leading rushers is Bo Jackson was the
more effective runner - he averaged more than a yard more per carry than Herschel. Jackson, the SEC's career leader in yards per rush (minimum 400 rushes), averaged 6.6 yards per carry as he rushed for 4,303 yards on 650 attempts during his Auburn career (1982-85). Meanwhile, Walker, who averaged more than a yard less per attempt than Jackson, netted a distant 5.3 yards per carry during
his Georgia career (1980-82). Furthermore, Walker averaged 5.9 yards per rush during
his most effective season, while Jackson tallied 6.5 yards per carry as a freshman,
7.7 yards per rush as a sophomore, 5.5 yards per tote during his injury-plagued
junior season and 6.4 yards per run as a senior. The later figure (6.4) established
an SEC single-season record for yards per rush (minimum 200 rushes).

It's safe to assume that Jackson would own virtually every SEC rushing record
had he totaled as many carries as Walker. Jackson had only 650 career rushing attempts,
while Walker had 994. Averages indicate that if Jackson had tallied 994 carries (Walker’s career total),
he would have rushed for 6,560 yards, which easily would have surpassed Walker’s
record mark of 5,259 yards. As for the SEC single-season rushing yardage record,
if Jackson had equaled Walker’s record mark of 385 attempts, his 1985 total (1,786
yards on 278 carries) would have produced 2,464 yards – a figure that annihilates
Walker’s record tally of 1,891 yards (on 385 carries).

Even if Jackson averaged just 4.0 yards per carry (far below his actual average)
in the rushing attempt differential between the two players, Jackson still would
have amassed 5,679 career yards as well as 2,214 yards in 1985 – both marks that
would have topped Walker’s records.

Jackson also averaged a touchdown per every 15 carries, while Walker scored once
every 20 rushing attempts. Once again, if Jackson had as many carries as Walker,
he would have smashed Walker’s SEC career touchdown rushing record of 49. Instead
of his total of 43 touchdowns, averages indicate Jackson would have netted 66 career
rushing touchdowns. Jackson also would have accumulated approximately 25 rushing
touchdowns in 1985 (when he registered 17), a total that would have topped Walker’s
single-season record of 18 when he averaged one score per 21 attempts in 1981.

As for their breakway capabilities, Jackson had an 80-yard touchdown run (against
Florida in 1983) and two 76-yard scoring jaunts (vs. Georgia Tech and SW Louisiana
in 1985), while Walker had just one 76-yard touchdown run – the longest of his career.

Although it’s hard to comprehend the enormous totals Jackson would have posted had
he matched Walker’s average of 331 carries per season, it’s even scarier to imagine
how Jackson would have fared against the defenses that Walker faced. During his
regular-season career, which spanned 33 games, Walker faced a porous opposition
that had a combined record of just 161-198-4. As for Jackson, Auburn’s opponents
during his regular-season career (38 games) were a combined 248-158-14.
Walker also padded his numbers against perennial SEC lightweights Vanderbilt, Ole
Miss and Kentucky, whom the ‘Dawgs annually faced. Against that trio of SEC bottom
feeders, Walker gained 1,513 yards, which was almost a third of his career rushing
yardage. Meanwhile, Jackson never had the luxury of facing Vanderbilt, and in his
only game against Ole Miss he gained 240 yards on 38 carries.

Regarding their speed, Jackson was faster in the 40-yard dash (Jackson was timed
between 4.12 and 4.22, while Walker was clocked at 4.30).

Edited by AUskip07, 13 January 2013 - 08:16 PM.

[HFS]

I skipped to the end of this and somehow Bo is involved. I am not unhappy.

[TheRealBrave]

HFS, on 13 January 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

I skipped to the end of this and somehow Bo is involved. I am not unhappy.

Gist of thread, Scar fan jokes about Gurshal nickname, Herschel obviously comes up - Auburn homers come in and say Bo Jackson was the best athlete that has ever graced this earth.

[HFS]

TheRealBrave, on 13 January 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Well damn, the Vikings might as well given Dallas their wives and children as slaves considering all they gave up for Walker.

We got Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, Alvin Harper and Russell Maryland out of that deal.

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[HFS]

TheRealBrave, on 13 January 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

Gist of thread, Scar fan jokes about Gurshal nickname, Herschel obviously comes up - Auburn homers come in and say Bo Jackson was the best athlete that has ever graced this earth.

Well.......he is.