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[Penguin]

Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

Mmm, yeah. Because Gene Chizik had 3 NCs from a coordinator position??

yeah he had 2 basically, and 1 as a head coach, so really hes a hotter commodity than smart. Do I believe you're wrong? no, do I believe your logic is shitty? yes.

[HobnailedBoots]

Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well then if it's my Bama eyes, it's your Georgia eyes. You obviously have posted a little jilted since he turned down UGA, that's alright though...we get that. Maybe you should consider him to be "spoiled" or "snobby" then? Why move on from Bama when it's realistically the job he could ultimately have? None of those jobs compare to it naturally, you know it...I know it.

Auburn is a dumpster fire with idiots running the show, Tennessee the same but more of a chance to rebound. Arkansas is Arkansas, a solid job but too tall of a task. Personally it doesn't hurt my feelings at all if he's not a "hot commodity". Means more success here at Bama for us fans, but the fact his name comes up in every head coach opening leaves me to believe you're just as biased on this topic.

"His name comes up in every head coach opening..." according to who, exactly? It seems to me the only reason his name comes up is because fans and the media in general are accustomed to throwing his name out there, despite whether it's true or not. You can call me jilted or whatever. The fact remains that a TON of big time jobs have come open the past couple of years and he's been seriously considered for none of them. Except maybe Auburn.

Your ultimate explanation is that he's waiting for the Alabama job to come open. So who's the one being biased here? Like I said before, either he doesn't want to be a HC, and is too comfortable in Saban's shadow, or he's not the hot commodity in the coaching searches that the media/fans make him out to be. Because if he WAS, and he wanted to be a HC, then he'd have gotten a job by now.

The excuse from y'all used to be "he's waiting for a bigger job to open." Well, now jobs at UT, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Cal, Texas Tech, etc etc, have all come open and been filled, and Kirby wasn't considered for any of them. So what's the explanation?

Edited by HobnailedBoots, 08 January 2013 - 11:42 AM.

[Penguin]

Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well then if it's my Bama eyes, it's your Georgia eyes. You obviously have posted a little jilted since he turned down UGA, that's alright though...we get that. Maybe you should consider him to be "spoiled" or "snobby" then? Why move on from Bama when it's realistically the job he could ultimately have? None of those jobs compare to it naturally, you know it...I know it.

Auburn is a dumpster fire with idiots running the show, Tennessee the same but more of a chance to rebound. Arkansas is Arkansas, a solid job but too tall of a task. Personally it doesn't hurt my feelings at all if he's not a "hot commodity". Means more success here at Bama for us fans, but the fact his name comes up in every head coach opening leaves me to believe you're just as biased on this topic as I am.

if you honestly believe auburn will not rebound within the next two years you are more of a homer than I thought. That or you just haven't been paying attention...

[Tider27]

Penguin, on 08 January 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

yeah he had 2 basically, and 1 as a head coach, so really hes a hotter commodity than smart. Do I believe you're wrong? no, do I believe your logic is shitty? yes.

To even bring up Gene Chizik, after his dumpster fire of a season...compared to a coordinator who hasn't even had his shot...

Yeah, both of you have shittier logic.

[Tider27]

Penguin, on 08 January 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

if you honestly believe auburn will not rebound within the next two years you are more of a homer than I thought. That or you just haven't been paying attention...

Doesn't matter if you rebound or not, with Jay Jacobs and Pat Dye there...Auburn is a joke. Wake up young one.

[HobnailedBoots]

I've said this for quite awhile re: Smart - He's going to have to either take a job as DC for another school and prove his worth as a coach when the best talent in the country isn't handed to him and he hasn't got Saban looming over him, or he's going to have to take a job at a less prestigious program and prove it there first. He's not going to get a job like Bama or Southern Cal or Florida or Georgia as his first HC gig.

Edited by HobnailedBoots, 08 January 2013 - 11:46 AM.

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Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

To even bring up Gene Chizik, after his dumpster fire of a season...compared to a coordinator who hasn't even had his shot...

Yeah, both of you have shittier logic.

we didn't you did good lord man you're the one who said any coordinator with 3 natty rings should be considered, well, gene has 2 one as a head coach one as a D co and an undefeated season where he got JOBBED at AUBURN who is apparently a joke? da fuq? you wake up old man.

[Tider27]

HobnailedBoots, on 08 January 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

"His name comes up in every head coach opening..." according to who, exactly? It seems to me the only reason his name comes up is because fans and the media in general are accustomed to throwing his name out there, despite whether it's true or not. You can call me jilted or whatever. The fact remains that a TON of big time jobs have come open the past couple of years and he's been seriously considered for none of them. Except maybe Auburn.

Your ultimate explanation is that he's waiting for the Alabama job to come open. So who's the one being biased here? Like I said before, either he doesn't want to be a HC, and is too comfortable in Saban's shadow, or he's not the hot commodity in the coaching searches that the media/fans make him out to be. Because if he WAS, and he wanted to be a HC, then he'd have gotten a job by now.

The excuse from y'all used to be "he's waiting for a bigger job to open." Well, now jobs at UT, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Cal, Texas Tech, etc etc, have all come open and been filled, and Kirby wasn't considered for any of them. So what's the explanation?

Have you been under a rock? You can attempt to refute it bro, but it is what it is. He's unproven and I want him as our DC. So take whatever shot you want at a coordinator that turned down his alma-mater, because it was apparently a down move. I get where you're coming from like I said, I see the motivation for this whole topic that you spew your Jawja juice on. It's entertaining at most, but it does get tiring. We'll go around in circles with your same old shit and even though you're wrong about 90% of the time, you'll give your biased opinion and can't dispute the facts.

No one likes winners I guess, and it won't get any prettier around here.

[Tider27]

Penguin, on 08 January 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

we didn't you did good lord man you're the one who said any coordinator with 3 natty rings should be considered, well, gene has 2 one as a head coach one as a D co and an undefeated season where he got JOBBED at AUBURN who is apparently a joke? da fuq? you wake up old man.

LOL, getting bent out of shape again little penguin...calm down. Gene Chizik had his shot and is irrelevant to the conversation. You and the Dawg guy proposed the question as if this season didn't happen, well it did and that logic is a joke. Chizik will in fact be considered for small jobs because of his success, so in a sense...I'm still right.

All things considered, a coordinator with three NC rings will in fact be considered for a lot of head coaching jobs. I could care less if he's seriously considered or not, him being at Alabama is a MAJOR part of our consistent success. Due to recruiting, preparations and the fire he brings. The facts are there, no need to go around in circles here.

Edited by Tider27, 08 January 2013 - 11:52 AM.

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Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

Have you been under a rock? You can attempt to refute it bro, but it is what it is. He's unproven and I want him as our DC. So take whatever shot you want at a coordinator that turned down his alma-mater, because it was apparently a down move. I get where you're coming from like I said, I see the motivation for this whole topic that you spew your Jawja juice on. It's entertaining at most, but it does get tiring. We'll go around in circles with your same old shit and even though you're wrong about 90% of the time, you'll give your biased opinion and can't dispute the facts.

No one likes winners I guess, and it won't get any prettier around here.

What facts have I not disputed? I'm the only one talking about facts here. You just keep falling back on Alabama's national titles, which have nothing to do with the subject.

[HobnailedBoots]

Whatever, I can see this discussion is going nowhere as ultimately, the Alabama fans are going to just say "He's got three rings barbabgab agabagbabgba!!!"

[Dawgy_Style]

Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

Mmm, yeah. Because Gene Chizik had 3 NCs from a coordinator position??

He has two that I know of. One as a head coach which I figure would matter more.

Face it, your logic is simplistic and one dimensional.

Your blind love for your coaches and players hinders your ability discuss them rationally.

[Dawgy_Style]

Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

I could care less if he's seriously considered or not, him being at Alabama is a MAJOR part of our consistent success.

So you do care?

[Tider27]

Dawgy_Style, on 08 January 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

He has two that I know of. One as a head coach which I figure would matter more.

Face it, your logic is simplistic and one dimensional.

Your blind love for your coaches and players hinders your ability discuss them rationally.

Re-read my responses to the penguin. You'll see your logic, as always on most topics, is comical.

[Penguin]

Tider27, on 08 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

LOL, getting bent out of shape again little penguin...calm down. Gene Chizik had his shot and is irrelevant to the conversation. You and the Dawg guy proposed the question as if this season didn't happen, well it did and that logic is a joke. Chizik will in fact be considered for small jobs because of his success, so in a sense...I'm still right.

All things considered, a coordinator with three NC rings will in fact be considered for a lot of head coaching jobs. I could care less if he's seriously considered or not, him being at Alabama is a MAJOR part of our consistent success. Due to recruiting, preparations and the fire he brings. The facts are there, no need to go around in circles here.

well if this is your backwards way of admitting your logic is shitty but that you came to the correct conclusion as far as kirby goes, which is what I said in the first place, then I'm glad you came around.

Now on the subject of Auburn being a joke and never having success with jacobs and dye there, you're wrong already, jacobs and dye were both there in 2010. Do I abhor the good ole boy system here? yup. Do I think we can still win given the right coach? yup.

Malzahn came in and fired everyone, told jacobs and dye to off as soon as he signed the papers, within the day actually. So, from what I'm seeing around here, Malzahn isnt taking any shit from anyone, hes put together an AMAZING staff, and he's one of the best offensive minds in cfb so...yeah I don't think we're a joke any more and YOU are a homer and fool if you think otherwise.

and now you're making ugay fans and auburn fans work together to defeat your shitty old man homer logic you suck.

Edited by Penguin, 08 January 2013 - 11:58 AM.