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#31
Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:08 AM
It's all about perspective.
Saban is still "fresh", meaning that before he got here, Bryant was "the coach." Nobody would ever be mentioned in the same breath.
Now we have Saban, and we see what Saban has done thus far. But people will still be reluctant to mention Saban alongside the Bear because they've had such respect for Bryant for so many years. It doesn't matter if he is a better coach or not, it's a pride thing.
Down the road, after Saban has left/retired/passed away, and we've had a decade or so to reflect on his legacy, I think they'll be two coached viewed as equals, regardless of who has more wins/championships/etc. than the other. They'll be the two coaches that built Alabama, during different eras.
And after hundreds of years, America will be a shell of it's former self and we won't enjoy the freedoms we have today because we'll be a socialist country led by Czar Caesar Obama III.
#politicalhijack
Saban is still "fresh", meaning that before he got here, Bryant was "the coach." Nobody would ever be mentioned in the same breath.
Now we have Saban, and we see what Saban has done thus far. But people will still be reluctant to mention Saban alongside the Bear because they've had such respect for Bryant for so many years. It doesn't matter if he is a better coach or not, it's a pride thing.
Down the road, after Saban has left/retired/passed away, and we've had a decade or so to reflect on his legacy, I think they'll be two coached viewed as equals, regardless of who has more wins/championships/etc. than the other. They'll be the two coaches that built Alabama, during different eras.
And after hundreds of years, America will be a shell of it's former self and we won't enjoy the freedoms we have today because we'll be a socialist country led by Czar Caesar Obama III.
#politicalhijack
#32
Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:26 PM
From a football coaching perspective Saban has far outperformed Bryant who was himself a great coach. In Bryant's day they didn't limit scholarships at the level they do now. He was the first to say he loaded up on players just to keep them from playing elsewhere. Add to that Saban's teams play more games in a given season and play those against better competition. And finally add in the fact that with the exception of 2011 you have to play in and win the SEC championship game to even get a shot at the NC. For Saban to have done that 4 times in the last 10 years is unequaled. I hate bama but I respect the quality of their coach.
"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men." from Cool Hand Luke
#33
Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:31 PM
My perspective, Saban is a great coach but the Bear is a legend. Only time makes legends....
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#34
Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:34 PM
I have lived in both eras and Bear didn't have to worry as much about recruiting in these parts. They came because they wanted to play for him. You didn't have the widespread recruiting of todays times. As far as pure coaching, I'd have to give it to Saban just by the way he develops his players and molds them. Make no mistake though, "Bears boys" loved him. I personally saw that on the day of his funeral. Theres still the Bear mystique in these parts but Saban is building his own legacy here. Dennys got the chimes, so I look for the stadium to be named Bryant-Saban in the not so distant future.
Bringing Kimbrel in to close is like unleashing
the
ing Kraken.
~ HFS
the
ing Kraken. ~ HFS
#35
Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:18 PM
Show Stopper, on 09 January 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:
Whats your reasoning?
None really...just don't feel like he's worthy of "Bear" status yet. Bear built Bama into the greatest tradition in college football (IMO).
When Cal wins 3/4 more titles, I don't think he'll be at "Rupp" status.
Edited by SECats, 09 January 2013 - 05:19 PM.
#36
Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:05 PM
WadeWilson, on 09 January 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:
And after hundreds of years, America will be a shell of it's former self and we won't enjoy the freedoms we have today because we'll be a socialist country led by Czar Caesar Obama III.
#politicalhijack
Not as long as I have my guns.
#politicalhijackcont
#37
Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:10 PM
CrimsoNation713, on 09 January 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:
I have lived in both eras and Bear didn't have to worry as much about recruiting in these parts. They came because they wanted to play for him. You didn't have the widespread recruiting of todays times. As far as pure coaching, I'd have to give it to Saban just by the way he develops his players and molds them. Make no mistake though, "Bears boys" loved him. I personally saw that on the day of his funeral. Theres still the Bear mystique in these parts but Saban is building his own legacy here. Dennys got the chimes, so I look for the stadium to be named Bryant-Saban in the not so distant future.
I don't think they'll rename the stadium, maybe name the field after Saban. Although I would much prefer Bryant-Saban stadium. Would take awhile to get used to though.
#38
Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:56 PM
nooneLT, on 09 January 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:
I don't think they'll rename the stadium, maybe name the field after Saban. Although I would much prefer Bryant-Saban stadium. Would take awhile to get used to though.
Edited by Noah, 09 January 2013 - 07:57 PM.
After everything is said and done, more is said than done. - Noah
#39
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:45 PM
Noah, on 09 January 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:
funny thing just occured to me.... my uncle still calls it Denny Stadium because that was the name until he graduated in 72.... maybe that's why I still call the other place the Memorial Coliseum.
Bringing Kimbrel in to close is like unleashing
the
ing Kraken.
~ HFS
the
ing Kraken. ~ HFS
#40
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:54 PM
Coke and Golden Flake might have to make way for Oatmeal Cream Pies and red Gatorade.

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