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[BulldawgFan]

Ok guys with the way TR played in the bowl game I feel as though we could be looking at our offense next year looking alot like our offense 2 years ago when Mullen was swapping TR and Relf in and out the whole game except of course Dak would take Relf's role in said offense. Do yaw thinks its a good idea, bad idea, or I'm just reading to much into TR's performace in the last game?

[shamoan]

generally, i think one of two things need to happen. one, scrap the offense and play to the strength of you qb, but for that to happen, we would immediately have to upgrade o-line and wide receiver.  option two is to start dak and and use what we got and maybe pull out an extra win or two if we are lucky.  i think dak is relf, but with a better arm.  we know what we get with russell.  i suspect mullen is too arrogant to pull russell, but i at least hope the qb spot is wide open this spring.

[Bulldog17]

Yes, next year is gonna be very "OFFENSIVE"!!!!

[BatesvilleBaron]

Uhhhhhhhh

The most prolific passer is MSU history?

[1dawgfan09]

BatesvilleBaron, on 03 January 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

Uhhhhhhhh

The most prolific passer is MSU history?

Yet our offense isn't one wit better.

[BatesvilleBaron]

1dawgfan09, on 03 January 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

Yet our offense isn't one wit better.

It was better than last year where we couldn't  move the ball against UAB and La Tech

Edited by BatesvilleBaron, 03 January 2013 - 09:34 PM.

[1dawgfan09]

BatesvilleBaron, on 03 January 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

It was better than last year where we couldn't  move the ball against UAB and La Tech

I'll give you that, but that was also two games. Our offense wasn't a bit better than last year against a D worth a crap.

[bluelightstar]

We also had the worst 3rd down percentage of Mullen's career, and if you can't convert on 3rd down, then you're in trouble.

But basically, I think this is Russell's offense, and it won't take terribly much tweaking to fix our offense. The problem is that Mullen's idea of tailoring the offense to Russell was calling 30 pass plays a game and not figuring out the best combination of routes to actually allow them to be successful.

[shamoan]

the third down comments got me thinking in a different way.....not about our offense, but our defense.  time and time again, we have done outstanding on first and second down, but we constantly screwed the pooch giving up mid to long third downs.  we are doing a good job on first and second for the most part, but we have given up wayyyy too many 3rd down conversions this year.  our secondary is lost and the safeties are killing us in this regard.  the offense usually know what we are gonna do and the exploited it time and time again....they kept finding the holes in our zone, nobody adjusted, and it was a simple pitch and catch, rinse and repeat.  we do even modestly better on 3rd down and i think we have a win or two more.  our coordinators gotta figure it out eventually right?  it always bothered me that our scheme was being taken advantage of....we should be dictating to the offense what plays they should and should not run, not them picking plays that have a high likelihood of success because we were predictable.  damn...i just want to get a push on the d line again....sad part is, we have the horses to do it.  wilson has certainly failed in coaching the defensive line if nothing else.  friggin cherrington.....laughable.

[BatesvilleBaron]

Collins really tightened that up for us I though.

The D played really well.  Kept us in the game even after so many TO's.

Pressure wasn't great but we blitzed well.

[nova]

bluelightstar, on 04 January 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

But basically, I think this is Russell's offense, and it won't take terribly much tweaking to fix our offense. The problem is that Mullen's idea of tailoring the offense to Russell was calling 30 pass plays a game and not figuring out the best combination of routes to actually allow them to be successful.

That and deciding that a "spread offense" involves Perkins up the middle from shotgun formations and play action passes.

[BatesvilleBaron]

nova, on 04 January 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

That and deciding that a "spread offense" involves Perkins up the middle from shotgun formations and play action passes.

Perkins rushed for 1,000 yards.  There is nothing wrong with him up the middle.  His size has little to do with up the middle success.

Mediocre OL play gives mediocre results

[nova]

BatesvilleBaron, on 04 January 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

Perkins rushed for 1,000 yards.  There is nothing wrong with him up the middle.  His size has little to do with up the middle success.

Mediocre OL play gives mediocre results

My point is more about it calling it a spread offense.  Just like Croom used to call running Norwood up the middle and play action pass a "west coast" offense.  Don't pisson my head and tell me it's raining you know...

[BatesvilleBaron]

It's all football.  Everyone runs "spread looks" and power packages.  It's all mixed together these days but it's all blocking and tackling.

[KnoxvilleDawg]

Perkins up the middle has been Merlin's go to play since the Relf days. Whenever we are in a bind, that is what he pulls out of the bag. Merlin just thinks "modifying" our spread to fit our talent is, like BLS said, just sitting back and running our 5 or 6 pass plays we had under Relf 30 times a game, instead of still trying to make our counters and draw plays major threats in our offense.