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ARfanNmem, on 02 January 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

No, but the NCAA or college should provide insurance to cover draft-ready players in the event they sustain a career ending injury prior to becoming draft eligible.

The designation  "draft-ready" may be somewhat subjective but there are plenty of analysts around to place a value on a player.

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I don't want to see college football start having players leave after one or two years(hell, Clowney seriously could've been drafted out of highschool). At the same time I say there should be a system where, if a player is evaluated by "x" number of people and determined to be a top "x" pick then the school should be required to buy insurance for them.

[Mizzou_Fan]

I say no. If they want to open it up to certain quality players, it has to be open to everyone because it is impossible to decide between who is good enough to leave early and who isn't. Then college football would end up like college basketball with everyone being one and dones which would ruin college football.

[StallingsBaldSpot]

SECorBust, on 02 January 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

I really like my college football as it is, but yes it is extremely unfair to the athletes.  I think it does benefit a lot of players with no shot at the NFL by getting them college degrees though, which is very valuable, particularly at a place like Vandy.

Well yes but there are athletes that have no interest in education(not saying Clowney isn't, I don't know him personally so he may value it). I just think that he has nothing left to prove. He will be the number 1 overall pick next year barring injury and if he declared today hed be the number 1 one pick.

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UK4Life, on 02 January 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

One and done? Two and through?

You can declare your jr year right?

3 years removed from your Sr year of HS. So after your Jr or RS Soph year

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HobnailedBoots, on 02 January 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

On a more serious note though - no. You start doing that and pretty soon college football will go the way of college basketball. No thanks.

What about this then, have the NFL create a viable minor league system(not NFL Europe), and then do it like college baseball. If you enter college, you stay minimum 3 years. I love college baseball for this.

[M2J]

I'm not opposed to it.   I'm actually a bigger basketball fan, than football fan (not college, I can't consistently watch college basketball, because it lacks the talent for a consistent good watch), and my general belief is that these kids first of all just need to learn from college coaches (more of a teaching environment, either sport), prove they can play winning basketball within a team system vs strong competition, and that they won't be a useless contract for a pro franchise (even though some do).

Ultimately it's the team's that pick up these players, and the college game has weeded out a lot of guys that would've been first round picks had they came out as soon as they graduated HS.  And for the most part, I don't think there would be but maybe 5 or so players that would definitely get picked in first or maybe even second round if entering the draft as an underclassman.    This year it would be who?   Clowney and Marquise Lee, maybe a few others.    Football, is a different game totally than the NBA.   The average career is so short, they're not going to just pick up a guy with a first or second round pick just off of potential alone.....those picks are extremely valuable in the NFL as you really can't build a team without drafting well, and they want guys in those rounds that can help right away.

I guess, what I'm saying is, it would balance itself out to a degree.   Some guys will leave early, but it won't really do them all that good.  On the other hand, this is a brutal sport and if a guy like Clowney or Lee are hurt before they get a chance to make it to the league...it really isn't fair to them or their family.

[Herschel Talker]

He was probably NFL-ready 4 years ago. Make it happen!

[HobnailedBoots]

StallingsBaldSpot, on 02 January 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

What about this then, have the NFL create a viable minor league system(not NFL Europe), and then do it like college baseball. If you enter college, you stay minimum 3 years. I love college baseball for this.

College baseball sucks because of that, what are you talking about? You realize NOBODY watches college baseball, right? Because all of the best players sign minor league contracts. If you want to destroy college football, then that would be the way to do it.

[StallingsBaldSpot]

HobnailedBoots, on 02 January 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

College baseball sucks because of that, what are you talking about? You realize NOBODY watches college baseball, right? Because all of the best players sign minor league contracts. If you want to destroy college football, then that would be the way to do it.

I love college baseball. I realize it isn't the best sport and many people despise it because of aluminum bats but you give the kids the option. Go pro but if you go to college you must stay 3 years.

[HobnailedBoots]

M2J, on 02 January 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

I guess, what I'm saying is, it would balance itself out to a degree.   Some guys will leave early, but it won't really do them all that good.  On the other hand, this is a brutal sport and if a guy like Clowney or Lee are hurt before they get a chance to make it to the league...it really isn't fair to them or their family.

How is it "not fair?" There's nothing that says any of these guys HAVE to go to college.

Football players who have been out of high school for at least three years are eligible for the NFL draft. The rules do not state that a player must attend college

Read more: NFL Draft Eligibility Rules | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/...l#ixzz2GrOb3Psef  


There's nothing different about that than many other jobs that won't hire anybody straight out of high school without any relevant work experience. Some jobs require at least 3 years of corporate work experience or something similar before they'll hire someone without a relevant education. So if a guy wants to skip college, he's free to do it.

I don't understand the "it's not fair" BS. Nobody tells them they have to go to college, but they can't be drafted until they've been out of high school for 3 years. Which essentially means you can't play in the NFL until you're 21.

[Gidnik]

No

[HobnailedBoots]

StallingsBaldSpot, on 02 January 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

I love college baseball. I realize it isn't the best sport and many people despise it because of aluminum bats but you give the kids the option. Go pro but if you go to college you must stay 3 years.

Do you realize how small of a minority you are in there? Look around dude, it's rare to see a regular season college baseball game on TV, and even the playoffs aren't watched by many people. People don't watch because the best players go pro out of high school.

You guys seem to be confused about the rules. There's nothing that says any player has to play in college. It says they aren't eligible for the NFL draft until they've been out of high school for 3 years. Jadeveon Clowney could have left to play for a CFL team after his first year of college ball if he so desired. Hell, he could have taken a job at McDonald's for three years and then entered the draft.

It isn't the COLLEGES that don't allow them to turn pro, it's the NFL. It's their rules, and it's in place to keep kids from getting themselves hurt playing against grown men. The NFL has no desire to create a "minor league," and if you're a college football fan AT ALL then that is the LAST thing you want to see.

[UK4Life]

I think the NFL is more affraid of the kids not being physically fit to compete against the men in the NFL. Some kids need a few years out of highschool to fill out. Otherwise you'd start seeing a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds gettin hurt by guys like ray lewis.
Clowney is just an exception to this.

[StallingsBaldSpot]

And the CFL is another viable option? There are better players in American CFB than the CFL. The NF: uses it as a minor league system when I don't think they should. It's merely my opinion, I am not stating it as fact.

[KneesInTheBreeze]

StallingsBaldSpot, on 02 January 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

should there be a waiver process to allow a player of his caliber to declare early?

I think there should be. Because what happens if he gets not only injured, but injured to a point where he never returns to his previous form. It could cost him millions. I know South Carolina fans want him for his full 4 years but this kid is already an NFL player.

Good points, but I would miss seeing him in the SEC next year.
Many of these good players get lost to us once they hit the pros.